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Re: Black Back ball python
 Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser
Het = Heterozygous in short meaning 1 gene
Homozygous in short means having 2 genes (genes comes in pairs of 2)
So het red axanthic has 1 gene and the red axanthic has both genes. Pastel, Lesser, Cinny, ect. are all heterozygous aka hets. all morphs are heterozygous or homozygous, doesn't matter if their visual or not, dom, co-dom, or recessive.
So when you bred your BB did you also get non-BB animals in the same clutch?
According to RDR (If I remember correctly) a het red is (BBxBB) which would make a het red a Homozygous morph. A Red Axanthic would be a super form. Like I said I cant remember 100% but im pretty sure thats what it said.
I have not produced any BB myself, you would be better off asking Rabernet. I do have a BB male just havent bred him. Just never had a good female to put him to.
Last edited by Rat160; 07-31-2011 at 10:57 AM.
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Re: Black Back ball python
 Originally Posted by Rat160
According to RDR (If I remember correctly) a het red is (BBxBB) which would make a het red a Homozygous morph. A Red Axanthic would be a super form. Like I said I cant remember 100% but im pretty sure thats what it said.
I have not produced any BB myself, you would be better off asking Rabernet. I do have a BB male just havent bred him. Just never had a good female to put him to.
Ok i think there might be a little confusion. Homozygous = super, in snake lingo. Red axanthic = homozygous, het red axanthic = heterozygous. You could call red axanthic a super het red axanthic if you really wanted. You need a het red or red to make other het reds. That much I do know.
Now if het reds = BB and how the projects are related, I have no idea. Hopefully someone else can fill that in.
*edit* this is whats on RDR site....
The Red Axanthic is the homozygous ( super ) form of the Black Backs ( visible hets ) that produce it.............breeding two Black Backs together from this bloodline will produce the super form.............The Red Axanthic. Corey bought a pair of really nice Black Backs from The Snake Keeper some time ago...........he bred them together and produced these beautiful Red Axanthics.............I bred a Red Axanthic ( homo ) male to several normal females producing all Black Backs or "het Red Axanthics" in 2003. The Snake Keeper had no idea what they had when they sold the original Black Backs to Corey.
Het Red Axanthics are the proven line of "Black Backs" needed to produce the homozygous "Red Axanthic" ( The Super )
Last edited by OhhWatALoser; 07-31-2011 at 11:10 AM.
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Re: Black Back ball python
 Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser
Ok i think there might be a little confusion. Homozygous = super, in snake lingo. Red axanthic = homozygous, het red axanthic = heterozygous. You could call red axanthic a super het red axanthic if you really wanted. You need a het red or red to make other het reds. That much I do know.
Now if het reds = BB and how the projects are related, I have no idea. Hopefully someone else can fill that in.
Yeah sorry its early lol. You are right, Im gonna see if I can find that article on RDR's site. Ill post it if I can find it.
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Re: Black Back ball python
 Originally Posted by Rat160
I want this snake!!
She's not going anywhere! 
 Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser
So when you bred your BB did you also get non-BB animals in the same clutch?
I got these two normals who I wouldn't call black backs, but they do have more black on their back than other normals.
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Re: Black Back ball python
 Originally Posted by Rat160
Yeah sorry its early lol. You are right, Im gonna see if I can find that article on RDR's site. Ill post it if I can find it.
look up for my edit, good info tho, I didn't know het reds were also BB
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Re: Black Back ball python
 Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser
look up for my edit, good info tho, I didn't know het reds were also BB
Ok so I was mistaken. RDR Simply referenced Corey Woods. This is from Corey Woods's Website.
"I produced the first Red Axanthics back in 2001 when I was still a very small breeder. I bred 2 Black Backs together expecting to produce more Black Backs. To my amazement 2 “weird” looking Axanthics were in the clutch. The Red Axanthics are born with purple heads and have the classic grey, white and black colouration. As they mature they become a cream colour much like the palm of your hand. At about 2 years of age they go back to their grey, black and white colouration."
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