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    pied het albino?

    is there any marker of het albino in this pied or a juast a pied


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    As it was stated in your previous thread, there absolutely is no marker for het albino. Period. There is nothing that can visibly tell you if any BP is a het albino.

    The only way to know for sure is if the breeder it came from is a reputable breeder that is trustworthy with good references who can guarantee that the snake is 100% het. Or if you breed it to an albino and you get albinos.

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    Re: pied het albino?

    Quote Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    As it was stated in your previous thread, there absolutely is no marker for het albino. Period. There is nothing that can visibly tell you if any BP is a het albino.

    The only way to know for sure is if the breeder it came from is a reputable breeder that is trustworthy with good references who can guarantee that the snake is 100% het. Or if you breed it to an albino and you get albinos.
    As it's been said before, there are no visible markers for het albino or het pied. You've just got to pick a breeder you trust.
    Last edited by Adam Chandler; 07-27-2011 at 08:58 AM.
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    What did you pay for him? That will tell you if hes 100% het albino. If you paid regular price for a pied male then you know hes just a pied.
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    Re: pied het albino?

    Quote Originally Posted by DC Reptiles View Post
    What did you pay for him? That will tell you if hes 100% het albino. If you paid regular price for a pied male then you know hes just a pied.
    i paid it for pied het albino, i just want to check if it really a het albino, thanks for the reply

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    Since, as we have already repeatedly told you, there is NO visable way to tell if it's het albino, you buy from someone you trust.

    If you paid extra for it being het albino from someone and you have to come here and ask us to tell you if it is or not, then you better hope you didn't get screwed.

    A good breeder will have detailed records to help prove a het snake is what they say it is. Just because someone claims a snake is het whatever, that doesn't mean it is. Lots of people don't know any better, but just as many do. Some think breeding a het to a het makes all het babies, but it doesn't. Some are just greedy and know they aren't selling a het but figure most people are too dumb to know the difference.

    Bottom line, you already bought this snake, and your post tells us you doubt the truthfulness of the seller. If I were you, I'd resign myself to the fact that it IS NOT a het, and breed him accordingly. If you get the chance down the line to try and prove him out, great, but don't shop for a special female for him because chances are it will be a waste of time and money.

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    If you dropped that kind of cash ($ 4000 or so) you should have some paperwork from the breeder with pictures and policy. A pied het albino isn't a cheap animal. If you didn't get it in writing you got ripped off sorry, next time you'll know better.
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    Re: pied het albino?

    thanks anyway for the comments. I'll just breed him to my adult albino.

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    Re: pied het albino?

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Chandler View Post
    As it's been said before, there are no visible markers for het albino or het pied. You've just got to pick a breeder you trust.
    Although I know this is a controversial topic, I agree with you opinion of het albinos but not het pieds. Ther are subtle markers on het pieds, not just "tire tracks". From someone that has worked with pieds for almost 10 years now, I've seen my share of hets and possible hets....including many co-Dom het pieds.

    Of all my 100% het animals produced, 100% of the 100% gets have had markers including my pastels. Approximately 50% of my 66% pos hets have had markers. Of the possible hets I have held back and sold to friends, 100% of them have proven to be 100% hets.

    I am not stating ALL lines have markers, but there is a solid reason why the largest producer of pieds in the world held back his pos het females and sold the 100% hets when building his collection. He picked them out visually. I can do the same with mine.

    As mentioned though, it's best to buy from someone you trust.
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