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Re: Anyone listen to Amy Whinehouse?
 Originally Posted by Rat160
Like it or not, theres not a druggie out there that will get any sympathy from me.
No problem with that at all. That's your prerogative and I respect your opinion on the matter. It's cool to post your own thoughts and opinions about an issue like this. What's not cool is to argue about subjective issues of "sadness" and make out like someone is "wrong" for feeling sad just because you don't feel that way yourself. That's how it came across, anyhow.
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Re: Anyone listen to Amy Whinehouse?
No, I defiantly think everyone is entitled to their opinion, that is just mine. And I know a little about mental health and clinical depression as I was on medication for depression for 14 years. With that said I still don't see what there is for her to be depressed about. Shes rich, She could have anything she wanted.
the depression was probably a side affect from the drugs anyhow.
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But depression just doesn't work like that, at allllllll!
You can have all of the material goods in the WORLD, and still become clinically depressed.
My boyfriend has had a great bringing up, no money problems, nothing, and he has had dysthymia for most of his life, with frequent episodes of major depression. One looking in on his life would say that he has absolutely nothing to be depressed about, but unfortunately it just doesn't work that way.
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Re: Anyone listen to Amy Whinehouse?
 Originally Posted by Rat160
No, I defiantly think everyone is entitled to their opinion, that is just mine. And I know a little about mental health and clinical depression as I was on medication for depression for 14 years. With that said I still don't see what there is for her to be depressed about. Shes rich, She could have anything she wanted.
the depression was probably a side affect from the drugs anyhow.
If you truly had to deal with depression in your life you would understand that your comment about being rich has nothing to do with the issue. I guess in your eyes you wont have anything to do with people who smoke or drink alcohol either. They are drugs as well just legal...
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Re: Anyone listen to Amy Whinehouse?
Who knows why she was a drug addict. Could it have been caused by depression? Yeah, sure. Could you depression have been caused by a childhood trauma? Sure. Does it really matter at this point? No. If you were going to be critical of someone, do it while they are alive, not after they've kicked it. At this point, it's not them you are being critical of. It's their families that have to read the newspapers and find out the million things that made their loved one such a waste of life that they deserved to die.
I wasn't a fan, but it's always tragic when such a young individual loses their life. Seems like they have so much potential left.
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Re: Anyone listen to Amy Whinehouse?
 Originally Posted by Rat160
the depression was probably a side affect from the drugs anyhow.
A causal link between drugs and depression has never been established.
However, a reverse causal link, in that those with depression are more prone to turn to drugs as a "solution", "self-medicating", or other buzzwords, is generally accepted by psychologists and psychiatrists.
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Re: Anyone listen to Amy Whinehouse?
 Originally Posted by Rat160
Shes rich, She could have anything she wanted.
Yeah, because being rich buys complete happiness, and material possessions take away depression... suuuure. If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. From personal experience, I can tell you that wealth (or lack thereof) has little to do with mental stability and happiness.
Regardless of how or why she died, it's still a sad thing IMO - she was young, talented, and had a LOT more to offer the world. That is all.
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Re: Anyone listen to Amy Whinehouse?
 Originally Posted by Rat160
No, I defiantly think everyone is entitled to their opinion, that is just mine. And I know a little about mental health and clinical depression as I was on medication for depression for 14 years. With that said I still don't see what there is for her to be depressed about. Shes rich, She could have anything she wanted.
the depression was probably a side affect from the drugs anyhow.
You seem to have a warped idea of famous, rich people. Just because someone is rich, doesn't mean they can do or have anything they want. Famous people are expected to behave a certain way, do certain things, and hang out with certain people. Most often, famous people (at least a lot of famous singers) have drug problems because of the people they hang out with, the stress of their job (you may work a full time job but their entire LIFE is their job. They are on the covers of magazines, on t.v. Their LIFE is on display for the whole world to see. Every FLAW, every MOVE they make is on camera. That is enough to make anyone stressed. Add to that you are expected to hang with certain people (to be with the "in" crowd) who are also just as stressed.) Drugs are a big problem with famous people. Being rich has nothing to do with it.
You are entitled to your opinion but when it comes to the DEATH of a young woman, it is best you keep that opinion to yourself if it is to be so negative, in respect for the dead and those who are saddened by her passing.
For all you know, she could have died from some condition that no one had any clue about that had nothing to do with drugs. Unlikely, but its still possible. Have some respect for the dead, even if you don't agree with her life choices. No one deserves to die young. It disturbs me you would wish death (even tell her to her face!) on your sister.
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Re: Anyone listen to Amy Whinehouse?
 Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny
You seem to have a warped idea of famous, rich people. Just because someone is rich, doesn't mean they can do or have anything they want. Famous people are expected to behave a certain way, do certain things, and hang out with certain people. Most often, famous people (at least a lot of famous singers) have drug problems because of the people they hang out with, the stress of their job (you may work a full time job but their entire LIFE is their job. They are on the covers of magazines, on t.v. Their LIFE is on display for the whole world to see. Every FLAW, every MOVE they make is on camera. That is enough to make anyone stressed. Add to that you are expected to hang with certain people (to be with the "in" crowd) who are also just as stressed.) Drugs are a big problem with famous people. Being rich has nothing to do with it.
You are entitled to your opinion but when it comes to the DEATH of a young woman, it is best you keep that opinion to yourself if it is to be so negative, in respect for the dead and those who are saddened by her passing.
For all you know, she could have died from some condition that no one had any clue about that had nothing to do with drugs. Unlikely, but its still possible. Have some respect for the dead, even if you don't agree with her life choices. No one deserves to die young. It disturbs me you would wish death (even tell her to her face!) on your sister.
Your second sentence is proven wrong every day...
She could have had the best treatment/doctors available...she could have taken months off to "rehab" without putting a dent in her bank account...heck she could have taken years off. The average joe doesn't have that luxury. And why is she any more stressed than the rest of us? Because she's famous? I'm not buying that. She either had mental issues or she was just too weak minded to deal with life...
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