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    Re: Understanding the platty gene?

    Thanks everyone. I was wondering because I personally never seen any one do platty x platty, only platty x het platty.


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    Re: Understanding the platty gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by aalomon View Post
    Yes. Platty x Platty would give you 50% platty, 25% super lesser and 25% super platty (not sure what that looks like).

    I could be mis-remembering, but I seem to recall reading RDR reports that the homozygous platty just looks like a normal. Don't quote me on that though.

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    Re: Understanding the platty gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana View Post
    I could be mis-remembering, but I seem to recall reading RDR reports that the homozygous platty just looks like a normal. Don't quote me on that though.
    I will quote you, because you are right

    Ralph Davis bred platinum x platinum and got a normal looking baby. Since it didn't get the lesser gene from either parent, it had to get the hidden gene from both.

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    My understanding of the Platty gene is that it is linked to lessers but not all lessers have the gene. However if you know the lesser was produced from a platty parent the likely hood that the lesser carries the gene also is greatly increased. But I don't think that you can have a het platty that isn't a lesser or another morph that can carry the platty gene.

    I may be totally wrong but that was how I understood it.

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    Re: Understanding the platty gene?

    Actually, a lesser cannot carry the gene. If it did it would be a platty. If you have a lesser you can be 100% sure it does not carry the platty gene.

    As for other morphs, I would think that any morph thats not part of the BEL group could carry the gene and not show it.

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    Re: Understanding the platty gene?

    Lots of replies, but I think alot were wrong!
    Blah! I'll have to look more into this!

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    Re: Understanding the platty gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Bowden View Post
    Lots of replies, but I think alot were wrong!
    Blah! I'll have to look more into this!
    Not many are wrong.

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    Re: Understanding the platty gene?

    It really is no more complicated than any other gene, people just think it is because you can't visually see it. It works like any of the other co-dom genes within the BEL group - the Platinum (Lesser x Het Platty) is a "super" (homozygous) animal just like a Lesser x Lesser or Lesser x Mojave.

    When you breed a Platinum (Lesser x Het Platty) to a Normal you should get about 50% Lessers and 50% Het Plattys (they look normal). You cannot get a Platinum out of a Platinum unless you breed it to 1) a Het Platty 2) A Lesser or 3) another Platinum.

    In turn you can't get any normals out of a Platinum, all offspring will be atleast Lesser or Het Platty.

    No Lessers carry the Het Platty gene. If they had that gene they would be Platinums, not Lessers.

    Does that make sense?
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    Re: Understanding the platty gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by abi21491 View Post
    It really is no more complicated than any other gene, people just think it is because you can't visually see it. It works like any of the other co-dom genes within the BEL group - the Platinum (Lesser x Het Platty) is a "super" (homozygous) animal just like a Lesser x Lesser or Lesser x Mojave.

    When you breed a Platinum (Lesser x Het Platty) to a Normal you should get about 50% Lessers and 50% Het Plattys (they look normal). You cannot get a Platinum out of a Platinum unless you breed it to 1) a Het Platty 2) A Lesser or 3) another Platinum.

    In turn you can't get any normals out of a Platinum, all offspring will be atleast Lesser or Het Platty.

    No Lessers carry the Het Platty gene. If they had that gene they would be Platinums, not Lessers.

    Does that make sense?

    Yeah, except for the first paragraph. LOL I guess I'm being weird. I don't think you can compare platinum gene confusion with co-dom genes that produce BEL.

    The rest of this post has clarified the subject to me though. Until you look at the original post. How do you get platinums from a platinum X lesser breeding? Ralphy did! Do you think Ralph Davis goofed on his records?

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    Re: Understanding the platty gene?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Bowden View Post
    Yeah, except for the first paragraph. LOL I guess I'm being weird. I don't think you can compare platinum gene confusion with co-dom genes that produce BEL.

    The rest of this post has clarified the subject to me though. Until you look at the original post. How do you get platinums from a platinum X lesser breeding? Ralphy did! Do you think Ralph Davis goofed on his records?
    Yes you can compare them because it works the same way, and it is part of that group of morphs.

    and there is nothing surprising about producing a Platinum from Platinum x Lesser - the Platinum offspring inherited the Het Platty gene from the Platinum parent and the Lesser gene from the Lesser parent. Make sense?
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