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    Spider to normal suprise, comments please.

    I know I have heard that BHB has pinstripes that when bred to normal females that all offspring are pins, here is what we have, Spider male bred to two different females the last 2 years and both clutch's those years where all spiders just thought it was interesting.
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    Re: Spider to normal suprise, comments please.

    How many eggs total? Do you know if your spider came from a spider X spider clutch?

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    Re: Spider to normal suprise, comments please.

    4 the first year, 5 this year
    no history on the male spider
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    That's interesting. Want to sell him? I could make full clutches of bees with that guy

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    I believe I heard that a spider x spider offspring will produce only more spiders. It seems a little dangerous to do since it might worsen their notorious issues, though. Congratulations on the nice clutches.
    1.0 Pastel
    1.0 Spider
    1.1 Citrus Ghosts
    0.1 Albino
    1.0 Normal


    0.1 Red Blood Python
    1.0 Corn Snake
    0.1 Hognose
    1.2 Crested Geckos
    0.1 Leachianus

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    Re: Spider to normal suprise, comments please.

    Hi,

    It's certainly worth keeping the records going - I have no idea how many it would take to establish it as a most probable homozygous though.

    I would probably ask BHB how many they feel they need from their pinstripe to be confident in making an announcement.

    I hope it keeps giving you those results.


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    well 9 eggs all in a row leave you with a 1 in 512 chance, so your either very lucky or your on to something, which is exciting either way. See if you can find some more females to breed him to. IF it is homozygous, every egg produced will keep proving it more and more. I wonder if some people in your area wouldn't find letting you borrow their normal females to help prove/disprove it.

    Also take some pictures of the clutch
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    Re: Spider to normal suprise, comments please.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    well 9 eggs all in a row leave you with a 1 in 512 chance, so your either very lucky or your on to something, which is exciting either way. See if you can find some more females to breed him to. IF it is homozygous, every egg produced will keep proving it more and more. I wonder if some people in your area wouldn't find letting you borrow their normal females to help prove/disprove it.

    Also take some pictures of the clutch
    I will breed him to one of my super pastel female this year and 1 differant normal to see what happens.
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    Super spider!!!!!
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    Re: Spider to normal suprise, comments please.

    Yes, very interesting. 20+ years into this project about time we get to the bottom of if spider is co-dominant or dominant. Best of luck on another couple good clutches that should be enough to "prove" it one way or the other. I know TSK produced some spider X spider clutches a few years back but I think most (all?) of their holdback spiders to put this to the test where female and harder to eliminate or prove the girls. If he does hold up would be really nice to know if he actually came from a spider X spider clutch or not.
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