3 questions about albinos and piebalds

[tikigator]

Hey all, I apologize if these 2 questions have already been discussed, I just spent 20 minutes going through searches and 9 pages of threads trying to find the answers and have come up with nothing. So if this topic has been covered previously if someone can point me to the thread it would be much appreciated!

Question #1, is a low contrast albino and a high contrast albino 2 different "morphs"? They look very very different....in other words, can a high contrast albino produce both low and high contrast offspring? I hope that makes sense....for example, if you breed a high contrast albino to a het albino, would the visual offspring solely be high contrast? Or could you potentially get a mix of the 2?


Question #2 also regarding albinos. I see different albino morphs, photos of mojave albinos, black pastel albinos, etc look the same. Is the only difference in the genes they carry? Visually they look the same? I don't think if I saw mojave, fire, and black pastel albinos that I could tell them apart.


Question #3, when breeding piebalds....does the amount of white of the male or female being bred have anything to do with the amount of white of the offspring? For example, is a high white piebald that is 80% white always going to throw offspring with high white? And vice versa, is a low white piebald able to potentially throw a high white?

I have looked and googled and searched here and a few other forums for answers and have not been successful. Thanks

[Royal Morphz]

First question some albinos throw high contrast all the time some throw faded albinos I don't think they are 2 different Morphs just some are nicer than others

second question I'd say you'd have to see them in person a albino mojo has the mojo pattern while being albino also

third question the white in pieds are never linked to that of the parents.

[LadyOhh]

Question #1:

To get a High Contrast Albino, you should use a very Dark animal to make Albino hets. With that, you breed those Hets together and get a High Contrast animal. It's selective breeding at it's finest.

To get a low Contrast Albino, use a light animal to make Hets.


Question #2: It's all in the pattern. You will have to look at pattern for those guys...

Question #3: It does matter slightly. The inclination for high whites to throw high whites and low whites to throw low whites is there, but it is not a set in stone rule. I have produced high whites with my low white male, etc...

[mues155]

third question the white in pieds are never linked to that of the parents.

I second that statement

[Serpent_Nirvana]

I'm not convinced that the amount of white is always 100% random. I have no doubt that it is random a large percentage of the time, but I feel as though when I see whole clutches of piebalds they very often seem to have a similar degree of white.

I suspect that with intensive line breeding, one could "fix" the amount of white in a line to produce a primarily high or low white line. This is likely not done often, which is why the majority of pieds seem to produce both high and lows regardless of their degree of white ... But I do suspect that it could be done.

.... Of course, until I do a lot of breeding I can't prove it one bit ..... Which is yet another reason I need a whole lotta pieds

[Brandon Osborne]

In my 7 years of breeding pieds, I consider it random. I've been breeding the same line of pieds without the introduction of new blood other than morph combos that I have produced myself. I've had a 50/50 mix of low and high. I DO NOT buy into some lines producing higher white than normal. Regardless, low whites will be had for $cheap$ this season.

Just enjoy.

Brandon Osborne

[Adam Chandler]

In regard to question 2:
Here is a picture of a regular high contrast Albino


And here is a picture of a Albino Black Pastel


She the difference between the patterns? Especially look at the unique Black Pastel pattern on the sides.

Here is a regular Black Pastel.

See how the patterns of the Albino Black Pastel and regular Black Pastel match up versus the regular Albino?

[tikigator]

In regard to question 2:
Here is a picture of a regular high contrast Albino


And here is a picture of a Albino Black Pastel


She the difference between the patterns? Especially look at the unique Black Pastel pattern on the sides.

Here is a regular Black Pastel.

See how the patterns of the Albino Black Pastel and regular Black Pastel match up versus the regular Albino?

Ohhhhh I seee!! Thank you for that clarification!! Often times with these morphs (esp just starting out) its very hard to distinguish the difference without seeing them side by side. They look completely different looking at your photos! so THANK YOU!!


Thanks to everyone else who responded. I have decided to get a black pastel het albino male to breed to an albino female and a normal het albino female....so we'll see what happens And I also am splurging on a piebald male to breed to my 2 het girls....but he's considered a "low white", he's gorgeous, awesome patterns, but I didn't know if it mattered as far as breeding him.

You guys are awesome!!