Thank you guys very much, it seems I given wrong information, I was told that balls liked to be housed together and that to keep them separate was just ppl being overly cautious. since I do not have 2 separate enclosures for them each I am going to work on getting them each a tank, I am working on a deal to trade their XL tank for 2 smaller ones once I have them set up I will get some pics on here and hopefully you will be able to tell me more. and I didn't catch her ovulating since it is my first attempt at this and I am at work all day I just trusted in her to do her thing and figured since he is always with her that when it was time they would both know, sad thing is that local breeders were telling me to let them just handle themselves they have done it in nature this long they really don't need my help other then keeping their environment clean and proper temps and lighting. I even spent alot of money on the plug in timers for their lights and heaters. I am now counting my blessings that I found this site you guys are amazing Thanks!!!!