Need some help plz

[Tori Witschger]

I have tried breeding my female cinnamon with my het pied male, this will be my first attempt at breeding my pythons. I have studied and taken every step I can to make it work. I had a friend come look at my female and tell me yes she looks pregnant, with a ridge down her back and bulging but its now late june and she hasn't laid her eggs yet? is this a sign she is egg bound? do I need to give her a better area in the tank to lay her eggs ins? right now she has a giant hide that she fits under I was told that should be enough cover for her to lay under. Is it because her mate is housed in the same tank as her? cause the tank is Huge and they lay wrapped around each other all the time when they could easily get away from each other in separate hides if they really wanted to. Or is it common for them to be this late in the season?

[llovelace]

What is your husbandry like?
It is recommended that they be housed seperately.
Can you post pics?



btw Welcome to BP.net

[Jay_Bunny]

It sounds like she is stressed by the fact the male is in with her. Even if they had a whole acre of space to get away from each other, if that particular spot is a favored spot, they will "cuddle" (which is actually them fighting over the spot). Remove him from the tank and she might calm down enough to lay her eggs. ((It is best to keep ball pythons in separate enclosures anyway unless you are breeding. Once the female ovulates and becomes gravid, there is no reason to keep the male in with her and he should be removed to his own enclosure))

And it might be very possible that she isn't gravid at all. Pictures of the set up and her would help us give you better advice.

[aalomon]

Id also like to know did you feel her building follicles? See an ovulation? When was her last shed?

Also, you should not be housing the pair together 24/7. While it is ok for short breeding visits, it can be stressful on your animals (who are not natually social animals) over long periods of time. The curled up together when not showing an interest in breeding is usually I sign of competition for what they consider the best "spot". If I were you Id move the male out asap (moving the female will not help your breeding efforts) and only introduce him for a few days at a time if you think she didnt take yet.

[Tori Witschger]

Thank you guys very much, it seems I given wrong information, I was told that balls liked to be housed together and that to keep them separate was just ppl being overly cautious. since I do not have 2 separate enclosures for them each I am going to work on getting them each a tank, I am working on a deal to trade their XL tank for 2 smaller ones once I have them set up I will get some pics on here and hopefully you will be able to tell me more. and I didn't catch her ovulating since it is my first attempt at this and I am at work all day I just trusted in her to do her thing and figured since he is always with her that when it was time they would both know, sad thing is that local breeders were telling me to let them just handle themselves they have done it in nature this long they really don't need my help other then keeping their environment clean and proper temps and lighting. I even spent alot of money on the plug in timers for their lights and heaters. I am now counting my blessings that I found this site you guys are amazing Thanks!!!!

[naturesbeautybreeder]

It is best if you house them separate tanks aren't the best way to house balls in my opinion they are hard to hold humidity expecially if lights are used as a heat but as long as your husbandry is right once she's is ready she will lay I watch one of my females ovulate but held onto her eggs for a long time befor laying which could have been since she laid 9 but make sure you have a incubator set up awhile befor she lays just so you can make sure you work out all the bugs in it and welcome to Bp.net if you need anything don't hesitate to ask!

[Quiet Tempest]

Do you keep notes on her shed cycles? When was her last shed?

I used Markus Jayne's breeding webpage as a resource when I started out and thought it was great.
http://www.ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.html

Hope you get the housing situation sorted out soon and good luck with them!

[Tori Witschger]

Ok so I was able to get her a 40 gal. breeder tank and have him in a 20long. now question is do you just need random pics of her? or is there specific shots I should take to help you guys get a good look at her?

[Xan Powers]

Ok so I was able to get her a 40 gal. breeder tank and have him in a 20long. now question is do you just need random pics of her? or is there specific shots I should take to help you guys get a good look at her?

take a few aerial shots looking down at her and then a couple shots from the side.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Xan Powers!

[Tori Witschger]

OK these are the images of crossing my fingers is my gravid BP are these pics good enough to be able to tell for sure if she is infact Gravid????