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    Re: Enough is enough

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    who runs around africa putting the wild ones in boxes for them too eat?
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    Re: Enough is enough

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    who runs around africa putting the wild ones in boxes for them too eat?
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    That's not the point. Who goes around taking them to the vet in the wild? Who tests for parasites it the wild? If you own an animal, it's your responsibility to provide to the best of your ability, the best care possible for said animal. Risk of impaction is minimal: It's still a risk, and if your snake will tolerate being moved to eat, I applaud that. I personally don't move my snakes to eat at all, simply because I don't feel that the benefits outweigh throwing my snakes off food. But I will never chide someone for doing something that could potentially benefit their animal!

    Sorry, worked up tonight, lol. I'm not meaning to start an argument or anything, just stating my opinion.
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    Re: Enough is enough

    This is going to sound funny to you but it works for a lot of us having this problem. Take a brown paper bag and put him in it with the hopper mouse put some food in the bag so the mouse won't bother the snake leave him in it overnight in his tank of course and it should work. I know it sounds way off but this has worked for me in the past.

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    Re: Enough is enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Anya View Post
    That's not the point. Who goes around taking them to the vet in the wild? Who tests for parasites it the wild? If you own an animal, it's your responsibility to provide to the best of your ability, the best care possible for said animal. Risk of impaction is minimal: It's still a risk, and if your snake will tolerate being moved to eat, I applaud that. I personally don't move my snakes to eat at all, simply because I don't feel that the benefits outweigh throwing my snakes off food. But I will never chide someone for doing something that could potentially benefit their animal!

    Sorry, worked up tonight, lol. I'm not meaning to start an argument or anything, just stating my opinion.



    I never move my snakes out..... I use aspen and if i had to move 50+ snakes out of there tub at feeding time i would never be done...

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    Re: Enough is enough

    Don't give up yet. Like everyone said, moving and offering multiple times in one day just stresses them out more. My pastel yb is going on a 2 month hunger strike and it really bothered me at first, but I've pretty much given up. She'll eat when she wants to. With yours just wait a while, getting bit probably really stressed him/her out even more. You don't want to make them afraid of food and you really don't need to worry too much until they start looking emaciated, then it might be time to consider assisted feedings or force feeding. If it comes to that, you should find someone who knows what they are doing to help you. Force feeding is super stressful and could cause more harm than good, do not try this by yourself.

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    who runs around africa putting the wild ones in boxes for them too eat?
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    Re: Enough is enough

    Quote Originally Posted by kinra View Post
    don't give up yet. Like everyone said, moving and offering multiple times in one day just stresses them out more. My pastel yb is going on a 2 month hunger strike and it really bothered me at first, but i've pretty much given up. She'll eat when she wants to. With yours just wait a while, getting bit probably really stressed him/her out even more. You don't want to make them afraid of food and you really don't need to worry too much until they start looking emaciated, then it might be time to consider assisted feedings or force feeding. If it comes to that, you should find someone who knows what they are doing to help you. Force feeding is super stressful and could cause more harm than good, do not try this by yourself.



    I do, i'm very concerned about the wild population. :p


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    Re: Enough is enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Haydenphoto View Post
    I never move my snakes out..... I use aspen and if i had to move 50+ snakes out of there tub at feeding time i would never be done...
    lol, as mentioned, I don't either, and I have only 2. I'm just sayin'...lolol...I don't know what I'm saying. I'm tired! Haha, I guess my point is, if you know you're snake won't go off feed, and you want to feed in a separate place, is there any harm? I guess I just wanted a rant, it's been a long day.
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    Re: Enough is enough

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    lol, as mentioned, I don't either, and I have only 2. I'm just sayin'...lolol...I don't know what I'm saying. I'm tired! Haha, I guess my point is, if you know you're snake won't go off feed, and you want to feed in a separate place, is there any harm? I guess I just wanted a rant, it's been a long day.


    Haha go to bed lol

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    Digesting a little aspen wont hurt the snake. Like adam said, dont remove the snake. It will make him or her feel very uncomfortable and scared. I just picked up my very first fire ball female form an expo last week and my mistake i made today was removing her hide so that she can see the mouse and i think that was also a no-no too. woopsies now i know better/

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    Re: Enough is enough

    Quote Originally Posted by adamjeffery View Post
    who runs around africa putting the wild ones in boxes for them too eat?
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    Are the wild BP's in Africa roaming around on shaved aspen??? Didn't think so!

    There is a FAR greater risk for captive BP's to become "compacted"!!

    THAT is why I feed in a separate enclosure(and luckily my snake isn't picky about it)

    If people want to use shredded newspaper as substrate and feed inside the snake's enclosure I see no problem with it.

    All I was stating is that THERE IS a risk if one uses aspen substrate and offers prey inside the snake's enclosure.
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