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    How to tell Het Hatchlings? or juvies?

    Good afternoon everyone, Last night i was thinking how do you tell when you breed say a pied or ghost to a pastel, how do you tell what normals or pastels became het. and whcih didnt? Do they have a belly stripe that goes away? are they lighter before they 1st shed compared to their hatch mates?

    I wonder because i was offered a cute little pastel male but he says his dad was an orange ghost but it just looks pastel ( i know because its recessive) but how could i tell besides buying a ghost n making the mambo when they r of size? he was going for 120 but i could get him for 100.

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    There's no known markers as of now that dictate 100% which are hets and which are not. There are the "tracks" on the belly known as "Pied markers", but many non-het Pieds have those too (including my Normal male). Some breeders hold back the lighter or slightly different looking normals in hopes that they are hets. All in all, theres really no way to tell unless you prove it out by breeding him.
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    Re: How to tell Het Hatchlings? or juvies?

    There really is no way to tell if a ball python is het. In your case, the pastel would be het for OG because a parent was an OG. When you have parents that are OG, Pied, Albino and you breed them to anything they will all be 100% het. If you breed two hets (such as two het pieds) together you get 66% probable hets because statistically 25% will be pied, 50% will be het for pied and 25% will be normal, so 2/3 (66%) of the normals will be hets. In the case where you breed a het to a non-het you get 50% probable hets. It's all statistics with hets.
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    Re: How to tell Het Hatchlings? or juvies?

    If the parent is a visual recessive, all the babies are hets. If the parent is a het, all the non visual babies are possible hets. They are called possible hets because there is no 100% way to be sure which baby is a het or not.

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    I know that its odds and the who genetics part but the pied lined or tacks is whati hear ppl talk about on here alot. And then on youtube videos ppl liek ralphdavis for one has videos where there are a few lighter normals he says are het and i sen other less reputible ppl goign along the same guide lines, i wondered if there was anything visual , pieds have track that a + in my books lol.

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    Check out my vid on het for pied tracks in the link below...Its goes into detail about it a little
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