And thank you for the kind words everyone.

Ivy, my 1700g spider girl, is definitely out of it, she moves a little now and but no tongue flicking and she is very weak... She has fully cooled down and her cages temps are back to normal so I think it's time to put her back and hope she recovers.

I can't believe I lost my normal boy... Anubis was my first ball python

-Jason that's a really good idea, if my spider girl makes it and is able to function normally I'll definitely try that. If she doesn't do well or live I don't think I want to work with ball pythons anymore, at least not for the time being... I've put in so much and have had such terrible luck with it