Yes Those three names came up when I started looking to. But I contacted Vince first and he basically told me, I cant sell a snake to you if you want your parents to contact me ok, but didnt even answer my questions. And I agree weight is a concern but Ive seen adult hog islands and they cant weigh enough to be a problem. And Im thinking about a month from now. I have a cruise with all the family, and then plan on getting everything in order. Ill post pics.