mark and marley I didn't mean you at all, It was a general statement not pointed I have absolutely no idea how you keep your animals I was making no judgement just a plain statement that some one who cares will have a set up that is healthy and will have healthy snakes against the uncaring keeper whom likely should never have bought the animal in the first place and just got it because it was cool... tub tank enclosure makes no difference it is attitude that matters.

Go back and read what I wrote again...