Quick, snake is spazzing out!

[loonunit]

Give him a good 5 min bath in room temp water. The mite treatment is the last thing that you did that was different, so that's almost certainly the cause. If he keeps freaking out after the bath, wash out the tank and switch out the bedding.

If mites are still a problem, spend the money on a can of Provent-a-Mite, and treat the ENCLOSURE ONLY with that instead of the Nix.

[Vypyrz]

The OP lives in Canada. I'm not sure Provent-A-Mite is available there.

[Skittles1101]

The OP lives in Canada. I'm not sure Provent-A-Mite is available there.

Here is a thread I found on PAM in Canada
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...able-in-Canada

[ocean girl]

Oh great! So he's probably going to die? Well then why do all these other pet store owners suggest Nix? They could have suggested anything, but they suggested Nix? This one owner even said full strength and I diluted it to the extreme!!
I was looking up that IBD, and he does show signs of it.
He has only pooped 2 times since we have owned him, We've had him over a month, maybe 2 months.
-He does that sun gazing. he will sit with his head and halve his body staight up and down on the side of the glass.
He's rubbing all his scales off
-He is flipping around
- constantly rubs his nose and side of face on the glass, has done this since we've owned him.
-Isn't eating for past 2 weeks. Could be due to mites, but even after his treatment and seeing no more mites, still doesn't want to eat.
-That's all I know so far, but he definately looks some what like he's seizing!

[dr del]

Hi,

If you've had him 2 months it isn't IBD.

It sounds like mites for almost all the rest of it.

And God knows why people keep recommending treatments that have been known to kill animals - I try and correct it every time I see it.

There was one yesterday in fact. When there was nothing better it was common practice to make up a home treatment and risk it. I like the fact we don't have to do that any more.


dr del

[Johan]

IMO it sounds like your snake is in serious trouble. I'd take him to a vet and if it can't be helped, I'd get him put down humanly. I'm sorry

[Vypyrz]

-He does that sun gazing. he will sit with his head and halve his body staight up and down on the side of the glass.
- constantly rubs his nose and side of face on the glass, has done this since we've owned him.
-Isn't eating for past 2 weeks. Could be due to mites, but even after his treatment and seeing no more mites, still doesn't want to eat.
-That's all I know so far, but he definately looks some what like he's seizing!

Check him for the following:
-Wheezing, popping or gurgling when he breathes.
-Check in and around his mouth for mucus and/or bubbles.
-Look around the enclosure for signs of dried mucus on the glass or furnishings.

What you listed above are also symptoms of a Respiratory Infection, and all of the face rubbing and strange movements may be him trying to clear his airway to breathe...

[ocean girl]

I checked him, there are no sounds, bubbles, wheezing etc.
He actually was very angry when I touched his head and before, we could pretty much do what ever to his head and he didn't care at all.
He started this flailing thing late last night, before his second mite treatment. I didn't see him doing it, but the inside of his cage was pretty much turned upside down, even the paper towel was all over the place.

In regards to treatment today, it was very minimal, I gently sprayed him and then bathed him in fresh water after so he was clean. I sprayed the tank, then wiped it out as well. I didn't see one mite.

I read that IBD is or can be transmitted through mites? How will I know if he has this, and if he does, there is no cure!

[Vypyrz]

-Are you measuring the warm side temperatures on top of the substrate or under it?
-What type of heating are you using and how are you regulating it?

[Freakie_frog]

I checked him, there are no sounds, bubbles, wheezing etc.
He actually was very angry when I touched his head and before, we could pretty much do what ever to his head and he didn't care at all.
He started this flailing thing late last night, before his second mite treatment. I didn't see him doing it, but the inside of his cage was pretty much turned upside down, even the paper towel was all over the place.

In regards to treatment today, it was very minimal, I gently sprayed him and then bathed him in fresh water after so he was clean. I sprayed the tank, then wiped it out as well. I didn't see one mite.

I read that IBD is or can be transmitted through mites? How will I know if he has this, and if he does, there is no cure!

Wait you sprayed the snake with "Nix" ?!?!?! How long ago was the last treatment?

Nix is not a "Spray on the critter" mite treatment its a spray the bedding and let dry kind of treatment.. If you did this before and not long ago then the animal is reacting to being sprayed with a pesticide.

How long ago was the last time you treated the animal and was it like today spraying the snake?