Quick, snake is spazzing out!

[ocean girl]

Okay, my son's snake just started moving around fast and flipping his hides around and is rubbing his face and turning upside down and it looks freeky.
He did this only for a few seconds, then he'd stop and slither around and stop again, then he's spaz again. Not sure why. I think he did this last night too because I woke up to see his hide upside down on top of his water bowl.
What do you think is wrong????
Oh and he kinks his head right down and then flips over. It's like something on his head is bugging him but theres nothing there.

[2kdime]

Dare I say IBD?

What are the temps and what do you clean with?

[ocean girl]

temps are good, 90 and 81. I haven't cleaned his cage since last week and I used some diluted hydrogen peroxide, which is not harmfull at all, plus I dryed it out.

[Freakie_frog]

What's the bedding you have it on?

[Inknsteel]

I wouldn't jump to IBD so quickly. That gets tossed around WAY too frequently in terms of BPs in my opinion. IBD is a disease that can be carried by boas with no outward symptoms, but it will kill a ball python pretty quickly, within a month from everything I have read. I seriously doubt the behavior is IBD.

Are you sure the mites aren't back? It sounds like they might be hatching and causing your snake some discomfort. He/she doesn't have arms and hands to scratch those itches, so he could be trying to get rid of them. You may want to give another mite treatment and see if that stops the behavior...

[ocean girl]

He's on paper towels. Actually I did treat him again a few hrs ago for mites again, allthough I haven't seen any or any eggs etc for a week now. There are some scales all over the glass from him rubbing, but its not time for him to shed yet. Maybe his scales got dry from the mite treatment. He has a retained eye cap, a half a one, that he rubbs daily, I have put a tiny dab of mineral oil on it to help lossen it. His humidity fluctuates between 50 and 60 and I try to spray daily. I'm really worried. He can sit still and is just constantly rubbing and flipping around.

[stratus_020202]

What kind of mite treatment did you use? I thought you only were supposed to treat the cage?

[ocean girl]

I was told to use NIX conditioner and to dilute it. I called 3 pet stores in town and that's what they all said to use. I wonder if its that? Allthough, the owner of this smaller reptile store said he has always treated all his snakes with Nix with no problems ever in 20 yrs.
Plus, wouldn't he have reacted to it last week?
The problem looks like its his face thats bugging him.

[Freakie_frog]

He's on paper towels. Actually I did treat him again a few hrs ago for mites again, allthough I haven't seen any or any eggs etc for a week now. There are some scales all over the glass from him rubbing, but its not time for him to shed yet. Maybe his scales got dry from the mite treatment. He has a retained eye cap, a half a one, that he rubbs daily, I have put a tiny dab of mineral oil on it to help lossen it. His humidity fluctuates between 50 and 60 and I try to spray daily. I'm really worried. He can sit still and is just constantly rubbing and flipping around.

How did you treat him for mites and what did you use?

[Skittles1101]

Uhhhh...took this from another thread...

This is why PAM should be used and NOT NIX...
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...hlight=provent