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This photo tells the whole story, that normal is trying to or already has locked up the pastel, females do not do this, males do.
If the pastel is a male you're not going to make any babies this way 
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/1004429j.jpg/
Jerry Robertson

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Re: ball python female or is she a male trying to breed with my pastel male im lost
You should look up some popping videos on Youtube. Ralph Davis has a couple of good ones. Or, have someone (like a breeder) show you how, or do it for you.
At this point, the male should have sperm plugs come out when you try to pop them. You don't even need to get the hemipenes out, just see if sperm plugs come out. It's a dead giveaway for a male...
Since you know the pastel is def. a male, try him first and see if sperm plugs come out. He is definitely big enough to have them. Then you can see what they look like.
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Re: ball python female or is she a male trying to breed with my pastel male im lost
 Originally Posted by clarkt
you should look up some popping videos on youtube. Ralph davis has a couple of good ones. Or, have someone (like a breeder) show you how, or do it for you.
At this point, the male should have sperm plugs come out when you try to pop them. You don't even need to get the hemipenes out, just see if sperm plugs come out. It's a dead giveaway for a male...
Since you know the pastel is def. A male, try him first and see if sperm plugs come out. He is definitely big enough to have them. Then you can see what they look like.
i probed them both and the pastel is a male the probe only went in alittle bit as for the normal it went alot further then the male did so shes deff a she.im going to do it again just to double check but im a 100% as of right now.
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Re: ball python female or is she a male trying to breed with my pastel male im lost
 Originally Posted by FINGAZZ
i probed them both and the pastel is a male the probe only went in alittle bit as for the normal it went alot further then the male did so shes deff a she.im going to do it again just to double check but im a 100% as of right now.
You've got the sexes backwards - male's probe deep, females probe shallow. The probe is essentially gliding down into an inverted hemipene - so it will go further. The female just has tiny pockets where the male's hemipenes are.
http://www.vpi.com/publications/dete..._sex_of_snakes
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Re: ball python female or is she a male trying to breed with my pastel male im lost
 Originally Posted by abi21491
You've got the sexes backwards - male's probe deep, females probe shallow. The probe is essentially gliding down into an inverted hemipene - so it will go further. The female just has tiny pockets where the male's hemipenes are.
http://www.vpi.com/publications/dete..._sex_of_snakes
your right i mixed them up when i typed it.male went pretty deep Female went vey little.sorry for THE mix up guys.nEWBIE ErROR.lol
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Re: ball python female or is she a male trying to breed with my pastel male im lost
 Originally Posted by FINGAZZ
your right i mixed them up when i typed it.male went pretty deep Female went vey little.sorry for THE mix up guys.nEWBIE ErROR.lol
We all start somewhere. Don't sweat it.
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Re: ball python female or is she a male trying to breed with my pastel male im lost
Suprised nobody has mentioned clenching males that won't let you probe them and deep probing females. I have one that goes 5 and 6 scales that gave me 8 eggs last year.........
I'd try and squeeze some plugs out to be sure.
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