well the pastel is a deff a male the original owner i got him from has paper work from the breeder to prove it.the female normal was sexed from the original owner that had her since a baby told me it was a deff female.it took me some time to get her from the lady but i traded her a normal baby male i had for the big female.but i will deff check them when there done doin there thing.its crazy. i thought males no the diffrence between a male and female.