Question about twins

[PweEzy]

Just curious if anyone on here has produced IDENTICAL twins. I think it is always cool to see twins popping out, but I was just thinking about how neat it would be to hatch pied twins with the EXACT same pattern. I would have to imagine it is possible, just wondering if anyone had done it already!

[newport]

good post i was thinking the same thing.

[dragonboy4578]

Wow.... I never really even thought of that.....

[toddbecker]

Technically, everytime two (or more) snakes come out of the same egg they are considered identical. Identical twins are produced from one egg that splits into two forming embryos creating two "identical" offspring. What makes them identical is their genetics. They are exactly the same. However, it doesn't mean that every aspect of their appearance is going to be the same. Just as in human identical twins there are some physical differences and I do not know of any twins that are 100% the same without any differences. Thanks for your time, Todd

[RandyRemington]

I think it was VPI that posted about being able to distinguish between genetic identical twins from one fertilized egg that split and fraternal twins from two fertilized eggs that just happened to get shelled together by looking at how they connect to the yolk. I've only had one set of twins so far (in my very first ball python clutch back in 2000). They where both male so could have been the identical type but I have no idea how they connected to the yolk. If you get a male female twin pair you would know they where two eggs shelled together but the same sex could be shelled together just by chance. I think the exact pattern would be like a fingerprint with some details determined by chance which explains whey genetically identical twin humans have different fingerprints.

[cinner]

I think twins won't have the exact same pattern, but cloning will

I might be wrong JMO

[loonunit]

No, cloning basically produces identical twins. So cloned snakes wouldn't produce identical piebald patterns, just like cloned humans won't produce identical fingerprints, just like cloned dogs don't have exactly the same patterns (or even, to a limited extent, personalities).

Some traits just have some randomness thrown in during the embryonic development.

[loonunit]

I think these two are as close to identical as you're ever going to see:

http://heathersherpsblog.blogspot.co...wait-what.html

[Homegrownscales]

Heather- was that a set of twins two years in a row?? Insane if it was. And if I read correctly the two clutches had the same sire, yes? But different dams, that is crazy. Gorgeous little twins though!

[cinner]

No, cloning basically produces identical twins. So cloned snakes wouldn't produce identical piebald patterns, just like cloned humans won't produce identical fingerprints, just like cloned dogs don't have exactly the same patterns (or even, to a limited extent, personalities).

Some traits just have some randomness thrown in during the embryonic development.

just as I thought LOL