Thanks so much guys.. It's funny, we are basically on the same page. I have been keeping them out also, use the unprinted newsprint and they burrow under it just fine if needed. Water bowl obvi stays in, and half the time they just hang together on top of the paper and do their...well, you know - "business".

I had a late start this season, so I'm hoping after all these lock I have had that the females are still going to go, haven't had much luck with palpating for follicles so I guess I'll just keep at it until I hopefully see an ovy here sometime soon. Good luck to me and Good luck to all of you!