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    Corn with possible scale rot

    I'm a Petsmart associate, and we got a new pair of corn hatchlings in about two weeks ago. One is perfectly fine, but the other, an albino, has been refusing to feed (first time that's happened in all the time I've worked there). Tonight was the first night I happened to be working when he was supposed to get fed, and when I pulled him out I noticed a small discoloration about an inch upwards of his vent. None of the scales are buckled in or protruding, it's just this gray spot about the size of a pencil eraser. Nor is the spot localized to a few specific scales, it seems to kind of fade in from the surrounding area. I was just wondering if this might be scale rot or some other aliment. I'll try to get pictures when I go in tomorrow if need be.

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    If it's just one little spot it could just be a discoloration. But pictures are always helpful. I'm dealing with a ball rescue right now that has a pretty decent case of rot. And by decent I mean not terrible but obviously not good. I've dealt with a few small cases before with other rescues and it's actually quite easy to deal with. Grab a bottle of betadyne from Any drug store it's an iodine 10% solution and do betadyne dilute soaks in water temp about 85-88 1x daily. Keep the enclosure as clean and as dry as possible you still have to give humidity, but try and not make it overly wet. I use either paper towel or newspaper with a rot case. Change the paper towel or newspaper daily. Anyways you keep doing this daily until it starts clearing up. Again I don't keep corns but I have dealt with a few rot cases of differing severity and this is what the vet taught me to do back on the first one. Worked well. This sounds like a skin spot though like a discolored scale. I've included a couple pics of the rot I'm dealing with now with the rescue. Hopefully you can compare and it will help.
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    Is it a grayish/grenish spot that looks like its under the skin? If so, its just some internal organs. you can see them on the light colored babies cause they're practically transparent. My little snow corn has the same thing. You can also see a huge dark spot every time she eats.

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    Thanks for the pictures and advice I'm much more familiar with scale rot in BPs--never had to deal with it yet, fortunately, but for some reason I just can't seem to find a lot of good information for identifying scale rot in corns (if it does in fact look different from scale rot in BPs at all). Otherwise, I don't know if it could be constipation? In any case I'll for sure try and get some pics tomorrow.

    EDIT: Whoops, was too slow for MDB's reply! I did consider it just being his internal organs as well, but the fact that he's on feeding strike just makes me think something's up, especially when everything's totally fine husbandry-wise. Though in all fairness we normally don't get such light-colored babies in, so I'm not as familiar with what's typical and what isn't.
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    It should look pretty similar in all species I'd think anyways. If you look at the I think it's the first pic I uploaded you can see where it eating away at the scale. If he has clean, and complete normal looking scales it probably isn't scale rot. But I'm sure if you post some pics all of us can figure out whats up with this little guy. The fact that it's right in his intestinal tract sounds like he's constipated and has to
    Poop. Where even with that a good soak would be very helpful to him as well.

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    Re: Corn with possible scale rot

    Symptoms are more or less universal, which is to say the Corn and BP scale rots are almost identical. If its not had a chance to progress rapidly you may try using some triple antibiotic cream that DOES NOT have pain killers in it. I would use the other method listed above if you see no change, if its a particularly bad case to begin with, or it continues to get worse.

    Although an alternative opinion was expressed by another member I am of the opinion that you shouldn't bother adding more humidity. Water is your enemy when attempting to eliminate the rot. If the result is a bad shed it can be easily fixed.

    As the other poster suggested you paper towles or the like and chance daily.

    Pics please!!!

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    This is what the organs look like. Sorry for the slight blurryness. She didnt want to sit still, but it's enough to illustrate the point.

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    Okay, yeah, then maybe it is just organs I didn't end up getting a chance to take pictures after all, but the spot on his belly really just looks like a darker version of the one in that pic. Sorry to have raised such a fuss about it!

    He did get a little soak today, but nothing came out (which, if he's not constipated after all, isn't surprising) and he still didn't want to eat later on. I even grabbed some bedding from the gerbil enclosure and rubbed it in there without success. So that issue remains, but I'm glad it's not looking to be caused by the afore-mentioned potential problems. Would cutting down a pinky and offering just the head or just the body be something to try? He really is extremely skinny now, I don't wonder if he's just put off by the size.

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    Try reading through this thread when you have the time. Its nearly the exact same situation and that person managed to save the little snakey.

    Also, that spot is a bit darker than it appears there. My lighting wasnt the best at the time, but she's just had a rather large meal so I was trying to grab as quick a picture as possible.
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    2.0 Normal ball pythons, Java and Nyoka
    0.0.1 Boa Constrictor Imperator, Hexadecimal
    0.0.1 Snow Corn, Yumi
    0.2 Mutt cats, Dizzy and Sumomo
    1.0 Shiba Inu, Hokkaido

    Snake yawns are the cutest thing EVER

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    Sorry for the late reply, been busy with uni stuff! Thanks for pointing me towards that thread; in retrospect I don't know how I missed it, since I checked this section for similar topics before I posted here. I'll see if I can't do something similar to what they did for our little guy. I'll be sure to update with any future results or changes :]

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