The pastel male was purchased a few years ago along with one of the pastel females. I really have no plans on breeding him. I really like the Vanilla Cream and that is one snake I plan on selling to myself haha... So I'm either going to keep him and raise up a vanilla or sell him and buy a super fire female to go with a vanilla male. I'll consider all the thoughts on rats, though I got the ASFs partly due to the reduced odor. My snakes and rats are in my warehouse/office so when I have rats it seems to smell much worse.