spider wobble?

[Homegrownscales]

Nope I've never seen anything like that either. They hold their heads straight, no wobbling, or jerking, no corkscrewing, eats dead on. Etc I can't speak for the head tilt for my partners 3 adults but I've seen them moving etc and I've never seen a wobble on them. I'm soley speaking for my adult male and his 3 children.

[HighEndRoyalPythons]

Typically, the wobble comes with the spider gene. Some wobble, some don't. I have 4 generations of the same spider line in my collection, the founding female has never wobbled since the day I got her as a hatchling yet some of her descendants do and some don't. Personally, I'm one of those that doesn't think it's a big deal. I think of it more as a quirk than a defect.

[Abaddon91]

Thanks all this is why I love this forum honest answers with experts giving their two cents the reason I ask is I want a killer bee but my girlfriend saw a YouTube vid of a really bad spider wobble and didn't like it at all so I wanted to see if the higher end spider genes have the same problems so I guess I need to find a good breeder

[snakesRkewl]

There is no guarantee a baby bought with no wobble will end up that way.
We bought a spider as a hatchling that was perfect in every way till he got to about 10 months old and now he's the biggest corkscrewing spider you ever saw.
Buying a young spider or spider combo is ALWAYS a gamble.

[Domepiece]

My spider also has no wobble. But you can tell there is something neurological goin on, he just seems off. He used to miss a lot of strikes when he was younger but now nails it 1st time everytime, maybe it just took him a little time to figure out/compensate whatever his issue is.

[TheBeastMaster86]

I posted A thread on this topic about a month back and got some great opinions on the topic just checkout my started threads it's under Bumblebee wobble.

[Serpent_Nirvana]

I have a male pastel, whose father was a NERD line bumblebee..........now, he looks like a pastel, although an extremely light one.........but he does have the slightest wobble and I have noticed it a few times. he is not sick, and he never misses a meal. But I do believe it is a true wobble.

Interesting ...

I asked that same question in the past ("has anyone ever produced a neurologic non-spider from a spider breeding") and didn't get many responses. But ...

This past year I produced a super pastel from a bumblebee x pastel. For about a month or so, the super had a mild head tilt. Twice now, I have observed him to spin backwards just like his bumblebee father does on VERY rare occasions, and just like his father, he snaps right out of it if interrupted.

His clutch did experience some severe variances in temperature during incubation, and he hasn't been seen to do anything "off" for some time now. I had written it off as a temporary thing from the temp. spikes.

Still ... It's interesting.

[Sammy412]

That's exactly what my pastel does....not often, but every now and then, he spins backwards, just slightly, just enough so you look and go wth?? He also stops when distracted. I didn't notice it until he got to be about 300g, although it may be that I just wasn't around for it before then. It's not severe, it's barely noticeable, but it looks like what I have seen actualy spiders to in videos, to a lesser degree. It doesn't bother me, but it could be a trait that is dominant with the spider gene, and maybe carried as a recessive in a spider cross?

[Failshed]

His clutch did experience some severe variances in temperature during incubation, and he hasn't been seen to do anything "off" for some time now. I had written it off as a temporary thing from the temp. spikes.

Still ... It's interesting.

Could you define severe? Just curious.

[mainbutter]

I have a male pastel, whose father was a NERD line bumblebee..........now, he looks like a pastel, although an extremely light one.........but he does have the slightest wobble and I have noticed it a few times. he is not sick, and he never misses a meal. But I do believe it is a true wobble.

There are many causes for these kinds of abnormal behaviors. Not only does the spider trait cause it, but in carpet pythons the jaguar trait similarly has some neurological/balance issues related to it.

I have also heard of non-spider ball pythons exhibiting similar behavior to the spider wobble, despite not even being RELATED to spiders, much less exhibiting the trait.