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Well, you make it sound like people that use pine don't care about their animals...
Geez, the original question was:
Is it alright to use pine?
In my opinion, yes, I've never lost a rat due to a RI using pine. Much less ever had a rat with a RI...
If you guys want to take this to a weird level of cancer and what happens over a period of time to a liver given a certain study in some lab half way across the world, then so be it.
If you want the opinion of a breeder/pet lover/pet store owner, then I just gave it. To tell me that I don't care for my animals is just childish. Even though they are being used as food, they get a quality life on some of the best diet, in clean cages. In a building that probably costs more than your entire collection, that's just the building.... Exhaust fans, heaters, A/C, complete climate control, including humidity. All of this for animals that according to the USDA don't even fall under the animal cruelty act. Ask my USDA inspector what he thinks of my setup...He doesn't even need to look at them, because they are not considered a "pet" animal according to them, but he's always checking out my setups for all my animals because he knows that I do it right.
I use CO2 to euthanize, not a stick and a broken neck.
I keep my animals in the best of conditions, I just spent $100 on a friggin breeder male rat at the vet. Guess what, I could of easily fed him off, but he will spend the rest of his life as my kid's pet.
So, in short, get off your high horse, and stop with the footnotes and independent studies... There are plenty of people who raise breeders on pine, like myself, for decades and never had a problem with it.
SO, YES, PINE IS FINE.
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