thats why i started the the thread down with PETA! HSUS is owned by PETA! Their goal is simple: start by pointing out undebatable cruelty like factory farmers who cut cows open alive. ( yes that does happen, but thats what the USDA is for!). then they move on to issues with things that aren't cruel like pet ownership free- ranged farms egg farmers milk and dairy farmers and fur. thats the problem, and they lie about who they are!