Differnce between a $75 and $175 pastel?

[pinkeye714]

i don't want to hi jack the thread but i think it would fit here rather then making a completely new thread.

I know gerrick makes some nice pastels but i notice that the snake keeper's males are all $75 dollars and some some of them look like they can be $175. but is his not that good of pastels? any of you have bought a pastel form TSK?

[rabernet]

I love pastels. I know that they are "low man on the totem pole" in morphs these days, but when I see a quality pastel, I don't hesitate to spend what the seller is asking for it.

For example - Garrick had this pastel female up for much more than $175.

I didn't hesitate - I knew that she would be a valuable addition to my breeding colony:



This is her more recently - though she's more yellow than the picture shows:


I produced this female:



And the male that Ed posted above. In fact, they are clutchmates.

Back in 2006, I paid $800 for their sire. Yes, that's what quality pastels went for then:



Bottom line, still to this day, I'm willing to pay premium prices for stellar animals.

[naturesbeautybreeder]

ive bought alot of balls from garrick and if i say so pay a little more to him for a better quality animal i have a pair of mojaves i bought from him and they are absolutely outstanding the female is blushed out like crazy and i love it! i also have a few hets from him and they are better looking than most hets i have seen my het albino male is almost solid orange instead of yellowish/brown and my het axanthic has a solid black line down his back absolutely stunning looking for hets

[meeistom]

Bottom line you get what you pay for. If you like the cheaper snake and it looks good to you then by all means buy it. Just remember the bigger names are bigger names based on quality animals, so you might pay more but the odds are in time the snake will stay true to what it's supposed to look like.

[darkbloodwyvern]

Some sellers price all their XX morph at the same price. Some differentiate the A++ and the C quality versions of the morph by price variation. It's just how they do (or can afford to do) business. Big or big reputation names can ask more for morphs because people know they can trust them to back up sales and produce quality animals and not make beginner mistakes like mis-sex an animal. Though perhaps some BPs make it harder to be properly sexed... I'm more of a beginner in that sense!

It's like high white pieds selling for more than low whites, they tend to be more visually impressive, though in the case of pastels, visually impressive babies from impressive parents usually make prettier babies.

[rabernet]

To the OP - I took a look at the pastels that Garrick has available right now. Were I in the market for a male right now, the $175 one would be my first choice of the ones he has availabe, with the second one priced for $150 being my second choice. The $75 ones have the most potential, in my experience, to brown out as adults, and some have already begun to brown out.

That's the difference in the prices. If you plan to breed, and you want people to be interested in the animals that you produce, you want to start your foundation animals with the best examples that you can find.

[d-monster]

couldn't it also have something to do with the weight? I hadn't noticed the color differences as mentioned earlier, but I had noticed that there are differences in weights, not just in Garricks, but in kingsnake also.
I don't know, I could be wrong.

[Dave Green]

To the OP - I took a look at the pastels that Garrick has available right now. Were I in the market for a male right now, the $175 one would be my first choice of the ones he has availabe, with the second one priced for $150 being my second choice. The $75 ones have the most potential, in my experience, to brown out as adults, and some have already begun to brown out.

That's the difference in the prices. If you plan to breed, and you want people to be interested in the animals that you produce, you want to start your foundation animals with the best examples that you can find.

Plus, I never heard anyone think back and say "I wish I bought the uglier one"