New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

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Here's the NICE thing about Government working FOR us. In cases like this where the two sides will NEVER agree, we can put the issue to a vote and let the majority decide. And as you may notice, the majority of the people in this country don't want to be forced to smell, breathe or ingest smoke in any form whatsoever just because those who choose to smoke don't feel that they should have to step outside and away from the door to do.

And for any who might think that I'm taking a hard non-smoker's stance on this issue, let me clarify. I'm a smoker and have smoked for 16+ years. But I know that is MY choice and not something that I should subject others to, just as I appreciate other smokers being courteous and not subjecting my children to it. I take measures in my own home to ensure they're not exposed, and I appreciate others who do the same. Sure, there's no LAW currently that tells me I CAN'T smoke around other people. But what do you think is going to happen when you begin offending masses of people by acting selfishly and engaging in an activity that DOES effect other people, whether or not your smoke clouded, haze covered eyes can see that FACT? That's right, Government is going to step in and settle the disagreement by enacting legislation that will be in the best interest of the MAJORITY.

Then you don't understand our government we aren't based on Majority rule. We're based on a Representative republic governed by a constitution. We are not a democracy.

So you don't smoke around kids. Fine whatever have a parade. I don't smoke period.

My entire point was it's not the right of the government to tell a private entity they can't allow smoking on the premises. You can choose not to go to that private entity. Speak and vote with your dollar. If your right they will close down from lack of business. Now if the government wants to ban smoking in government owned areas like parks and government buildings then fine thats there right.

[Inknsteel]

Then you don't understand our government we aren't based on Majority rule. We're based on a Representative republic governed by a constitution. We are not a democracy.

So you don't smoke around kids. Fine whatever have a parade. I don't smoke period.

Well yay for you then, maybe we should throw YOU a parade. And if this is the case, then don't take it personally because you aren't part of the group this effects, nor are you one of the offenders whose lack of regard for other people has caused it to become legislated. In an ideal society, we would all respect the rights of others and would make conscious efforts to ensure that exercising our own rights does not infringe on the rights of anyone else.

My entire point was it's not the right of the government to tell a private entity they can't allow smoking on the premises. You can choose not to go to that private entity. Speak and vote with your dollar. If your right they will close down from lack of business. Now if the government wants to ban smoking in government owned areas like parks and government buildings then fine thats there right.

And this right here brings me full circle to my initial post in this thread. We're talking about GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING. According to posters in the state of Washington, there is already legislation on the books banning smoking within 25 feet of entrances to public buildings. So, the "new" legislation that warranted this entire thread was only talking about the government enforcing a ban on smoking within 25 feet of the public entrance of this government owned or subsidized building. They own it, they're the landlords, they're the final word.

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Well yay for you then, maybe we should throw YOU a parade. And if this is the case, then don't take it personally because you aren't part of the group this effects, nor are you one of the offenders whose lack of regard for other people has caused it to become legislated. In an ideal society, we would all respect the rights of others and would make conscious efforts to ensure that exercising our own rights does not infringe on the rights of anyone else.



And this right here brings me full circle to my initial post in this thread. We're talking about GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING. According to posters in the state of Washington, there is already legislation on the books banning smoking within 25 feet of entrances to public buildings. So, the "new" legislation that warranted this entire thread was only talking about the government enforcing a ban on smoking within 25 feet of the public entrance of this government owned or subsidized building. They own it, they're the landlords, they're the final word.

I would like a parade, can we do it brazil style cause I like feathers.


Anyway. this is about Government subsidized housing?! Well then...Totally there right to ban it there. Don't I feel dumb.


I was only speaking on behalf of all the privately owned businesses that have been reemed. But if you take government money then you open yourself up to there big bad boot.

Sooo yeah. Done here. On to drinking.