hah yes trust me i know where you're coming from with regards to peta, i am in no way an active supporter, and that is but one example, where an employee is discussing feeding a number of fresh imports which kept getting put off, for quite some time, as well as an animal with a broken jaw which the head honcho completely dismissed...and i know this is on the importer side of things, but for example BHB says "conservation through captive propagation", and I am leaning more towards this aspect in the discussion... i almost look at the importation of large numbers as a sort of necessary evil (if one even considers it that) for our hobby... either way, I'm glad we have some new input!