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  1. 03-22-2011, 07:31 PM #1
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    Need quick opinions from pied breeders! DUW

    I have someone interested in purchasing this girl today and when I went to take pictures I noticed she has two bright white patches on her belly surrounded by "no white pied" markings. When she hatched I thought she was a no white pied (het pied x poss het pied breeding) but half her body has a normal pattern and half has the "no white pied" look.

    They are kind of hard to see because the reflection off her scales but they are whiter than her other "white" belly scales.

    Wondering if its possible she could be a no white pied?!

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  2. 03-22-2011, 07:38 PM #2
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    Normal looking animals with a patch of white are called ringers

    Scroll down and read the part about Ringers http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ds-and-Ringers
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  3. 03-22-2011, 07:39 PM #3
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    Re: Need quick opinions from pied breeders! DUW

    I was also thinking the white could just be due to a ringer type marking since half her pattern is normal.

    Soon I'll have patches of bald spots from these snakes.
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  4. 03-22-2011, 07:41 PM #4
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    Re: Need quick opinions from pied breeders! DUW

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Normal looking animals with a patch of white are called ringers

    Scroll down and read the part about Ringers http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ds-and-Ringers
    Ha ha, bet me to it. I totally think thats whats going on, I just had a "oh crap" moment. Sometimes I think my brain goes on vacation.
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  5. 03-22-2011, 11:21 PM #5
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    Re: Need quick opinions from pied breeders! DUW

    It's funny though how the pied gene can show a continuum from very low white pied to super adherent clear belly het. Even if she is only a possible het I’d bet she proves.
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    As others have stated, that is not a Pied. I will tell you though that a "no white Pied" still has a 100% white belly. The belly is the same color as the ringer belly scales present on your animal. Also, a 0% white pied still has the Pied pattern on the rest of the body, and also has the grey chin that Pieds have.
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  7. 03-24-2011, 10:34 AM #7
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    Yeah looks like an very faint ringer to me. Shes still very beautiful none the less!
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    Even if she isn't a pied, she is very beautiful!
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    Hooray for Ringers!

    She's very pretty!
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    well hold back and prove her out. even if she's not a pied, she's make some beautiful babies.
    0.1 Normal (Sookie)
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