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Re: BumbleBee Wobble
 Originally Posted by LizardPants
The only way to get rid of it is for breeders to be more responsible, and not breed snakes with inheritable disorders or deformities.
Every morph on the market has an inheritable deformity, that's what makes them different from normals..
So if you dislike deformed Ball pythons don't own or breed morphs..plan and simple
When you've got 10,000 people trying to do the same thing, why would you want to be number 10,001? ~ Mark Cuban "for the discerning collector"
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Re: BumbleBee Wobble
 Originally Posted by Deborah
So spiders should no longer be bred?
All spiders wobble/spin to a degree in some case it is hardly noticeable in some case they are train wrecks.
It cannot be bred out.
The things is with spider wobble is that a slight wobbler can throw a train wreck and vice-versa, wobbling can also be worse with years or get better with years.
So again what are the suggestions, stop breeding spiders and label those who do irresponsible? 
Thanks for your reply, but please don't twist my words. Snakes (or any animal) that are known carriers of inheritable deformities should not be bred for the purpose of selling.
With the right amount of hard work, and forethought into breeding efforts, inheritable deformities can be bred out.
Last edited by LizardPants; 03-17-2011 at 05:34 PM.
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Re: BumbleBee Wobble
 Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
Every morph on the market has an inheritable deformity, that's what makes them different from normals..
So if you dislike deformed Ball pythons don't own or breed morphs..plan and simple
Thanks for your response, but you're misinterpreting my statement.
It's fairly obvious there is a difference between mutations that are aesthetic, and those which are nervous disorders (wobble) or physical deformities (duckbill, small eyes, missing eyes, kinks).
Last edited by LizardPants; 03-17-2011 at 05:42 PM.
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Re: BumbleBee Wobble
 Originally Posted by LizardPants
With the right amount of hard work, and forethought into breeding efforts, inheritable deformities can be bred out.
Let's see this thread is about wobble/spinning.
Wobble in Spiders cannot be bred out so what is the responsible thing to do, stop breeding them?
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Re: BumbleBee Wobble
 Originally Posted by LizardPants
Thanks for your response, but you're misinterpreting my statement.
It's fairly obvious there is a difference between mutations that are aesthetic, and those which are nervous disorders (wobble) or physical deformities (duckbill, small eyes, missing eyes, kinks).
I didn't misinterpret, and not there is no difference it is a genetic deformity that causes the animal to not physically present the same physical appearance as the atypical member of the species..
The only difference is that people choose what deformity they choose to buy and which they choose disregard..
When you've got 10,000 people trying to do the same thing, why would you want to be number 10,001? ~ Mark Cuban "for the discerning collector"
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I wish the Spiders didn't have the wobble of any kind (minor or extreme). With that said I love the Spider morph it would be a shame if no one breed them anymore
Last edited by DellaF; 03-17-2011 at 06:32 PM.
Reason: spelling
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0.1 Coral Albino Boa (Josslynn)
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Re: BumbleBee Wobble
 Originally Posted by LizardPants
It is an interesting morph. I've seen some awesome bees in particular! 
Wouldn't it be great if the better breeders worked to eradicate the wobble?
You can't eradicate the wobble...spiders wobble
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Re: BumbleBee Wobble
 Originally Posted by LizardPants
Wouldn't it be great if the better breeders worked to eradicate the wobble?
You still have missed all the points regarding wobble it does not matter if you are responsible or a better breeder it CANNOT be bred out.
At least do some research on the subject
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You state that the wobble can't be bred out. Can you point us toward your sources to back that up?
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