The problem is that every one thinks they know genetics and know all about ball python genetics. They think its just one gene or two genes that are causing the color/patern changes. In fact it can be 4 or more genes working together. Trying to say that all of the balls that create BEL's are the same complex. If they were then they would all make the same looking snake no matter what they were bred to. Sorry but IMO a Phantom is not a BEL.