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Re: Kill pen horses
 Originally Posted by Egapal
Feeding Fido to your snake is taboo because there is no precedent for doing so and other than that there is nothing wrong with it, presuming your snake is large enough to quickly dispatch Fido. There is a long standing precedent for turning horses into food, human or pet food. Horse meat is actually pretty good for you, better than beef.
I don't understand what you mean by "no precedent". In the long history of America, there was a time when dog was food. In some areas of the Philippines, dog is still food.
I'm not arguing whether horses should be food or not. I'm not even arguing whether horses should be food or not. I am merely stating (and if you re-read my first post on the matter, you will see me state it clearly) that I UNDERSTAND the culture. It is not my culture. I'm Filipino, not American. But, I understand how the American culture of not eating Fido came to be. And I agree with that culture.
I didn't say - at any time - you should agree with it too. But, it is YOUR culture.
 Originally Posted by Egapal
A slaughter house does not necessarily mean cruel. I don't think anyone would argue that regulations should be in place to keep the slaughter houses as humane as possible.
I never said it did.
 Originally Posted by Egapal
It rankles your senses. Many cultures including ours not so long ago had no problem with an animal serving its human masters for a lifetime then being used for food. Milk cows, oxen, sheep, chickens and yes horses all can have long lives of service only to end up as food. The fact that dogs typically don't as you already stated is a cultural thing. Many societies don't have a problem with dogs being used for meat and they are not less civilized for that practice. To say they are is to be ethnocentric.
Many cultures including yours not so long ago had no problem hanging a man in the center square. One can argue that it did not mean they were less civilized for that practice.
So, if you read my first post again, you will see that I did not say Filipinos are less civilized for that practice. I said Americans (remember, I'm Filipino) look at Filipinos as uncivilized for that practice and I can agree with it if you measure civility by the way a society treats their pets (which, is not my quote either).
 Originally Posted by Egapal
Whose point are you making? My breeder rodents get cared for as if they were pets then fed to my snakes. I have no problem with that. I would likewise have no problem taking in someone else's pet rodent (assume it was healthy and well cared for) and feeding it to my snakes. The fact that I feel something for my animals is part of keeping them. It does not mean that I should cremate them when they die of natural causes.
Sure, that's your sentiment. It's not the general consensus in the United States of America. And uhm, did I mention I'm Filipino?
You have rats in your house because you raise them to feed your snake. Nothing wrong with that. But according to American culture, pet rat Stanley, do not need to be fed to the snake. Hey, don't look at me. I'm Filipino.
But, yes, I wouldn't feed my pet hamster to my snake. He gets a burial in my backyard right next to the old dog complete with flowers. That's just how I roll. No, I didn't waste the poor hamster's life. He served me well.
 Originally Posted by Egapal
Great, we all agree, who am I to argue with Ghandi. Slaughter houses are not necessarily cruel.
I never said they were.
 Originally Posted by Egapal
I would certainly agree that animals who serve as food should be treated with dignity and respect as all living things should be. I eat local organically raised animals, and the few horses that have gone to slaughter went to a facility that we had thoroughly vetted.
Yeay, we agree.
 Originally Posted by Egapal
It would be awesome if more people could put pointless cultural taboo's aside and go back to a time when we didn't waste so much. There was a time not to long ago when it would have been taboo to let an animals body go to waste. Are there issues surrounding horse slaughter? Sure. As for sounding idiotic. The American Quarter Horse Association was against the closing of slaughter houses on the grounds that it would do more harm than good. Do you really think we should ignore the AQHA's well thought out position and accept yours.
Again... re-read my post. I never said to close slaughter houses. All I said was that pet horses, like pet dogs, don't need to be eaten. So, rename slaughter houses into kill shelters and you're good to go.
And about an animal going to waste - if you hunt deer and not eat it, then that's a waste. Fido can be buried/cremated like grandma because, you know, we just don't eat grandma regardless of how yummy she is. And yes, grandma is human while Fido is not. I see the difference. But, we're all one happy family in this thing called the Animal Kingdom.
Last edited by anatess; 02-17-2011 at 11:10 PM.
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