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Re: Out with the old / in with the new. (Sniper Rifle)
 Originally Posted by Camarokidz28
Jim, bit sandy? Or did your cheerios taste a bit funny this morning?
No, not at all. But when someone posts a message saying that he's bought a 1000 yard rifle and then shows a Remington 700 VTR, I've got to say something.
Kind of like a few years ago, when people were trying to pass off a regular albino for a lavender albino.
I've got a 1974 Nova, but I don't tell people it's a Yenko. Anyone with obvious knowledge will certainly tell me I'm full of it.
Jim Smith
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Re: Out with the old / in with the new. (Sniper Rifle)
VTR = Varmint Target Rifle 
Good for sniping coyotes or deer or even the elusive paper backed silhouette...
Mike
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Re: Out with the old / in with the new. (Sniper Rifle)
 Originally Posted by j_h_smith
No, not at all. But when someone posts a message saying that he's bought a 1000 yard rifle and then shows a Remington 700 VTR, I've got to say something.
Kind of like a few years ago, when people were trying to pass off a regular albino for a lavender albino.
I've got a 1974 Nova, but I don't tell people it's a Yenko. Anyone with obvious knowledge will certainly tell me I'm full of it.
Jim Smith
Have you shot a 308 VTR or is all your info second hand? When the VTR first came out it was a just ok rifle. Mainly because the faulty trigger. It got some bad rep because of that. They have redesigned it and now its a perfect working weapon.
Another thing about this rifle which i'm sure you don't know about is that its picky with ammo. Any ammo over 175 grain it instantly becomes a sub moa gun. I shoot my own 180 grain hand loads. When it warms up i'm going to take this to a 1k yard range and we will see how it performs.
The fact that you think 7.62x51 is more powerful than the standard off the shelf 308 showed me that you know absolutely nothing about this kind of ammo.
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Re: Out with the old / in with the new. (Sniper Rifle)
 Originally Posted by Darkice
Have you shot a 308 VTR or is all your info second hand? When the VTR first came out it was a just ok rifle. Mainly because the faulty trigger. It got some bad rep because of that. They have redesigned it and now its a perfect working weapon.
Another thing about this rifle which i'm sure you don't know about is that its picky with ammo. Any ammo over 175 grain it instantly becomes a sub moa gun. I shoot my own 180 grain hand loads. When it warms up i'm going to take this to a 1k yard range and we will see how it performs.
The fact that you think 7.62x51 is more powerful than the standard off the shelf 308 showed me that you know absolutely nothing about this kind of ammo.
Yeah, you're right, I know nothing. You go ahead and shoot that VTR on the 1000 yard range. BTW, which range do you shoot at?
You also don't know what I meant about being safe for 7.62mm, oh well, that's something else I don't know.
I hope you enjoy that perfect working weapon. BTW, have you ever seen this rifle used or recommended by anyone that knows what a shooting jacket is? I think not.
I know, it must be the shooter. You're shouting all of these accolates and you haven't shot the rifle. Where have you been getting your information?
BTW, what manufacturer of spotting scope do you use? Where did you buy your shooting jacket?
What's your best groupings at 1000 yards?
Have you done any competitive matches? I guess you're an old pro at the 600 yard matches. Camp Perry any interest to you? John C. Garand Match? Maybe I'll see you there next year, or maybe Knob Creek.
Jim Smith
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