thanks again to everyone,... it would be easier to take him and have him put down if i hadn't just paid all my bills that were due,... i am on a state income cuz i'm jobless right now and only get money once a month but freezing or humane society sound like decent ideas i'll call the humane society tomorrow and if they cant help me that only leaves one choice really, and its not cuz i want him to suffer but i have to say that he made it through the first night and looked a lot happier this morning,... there are no actual holes in him at all which suprised me but we'll see what they say tomorrow