I am leaning toward cinny at this point after seeing lots of pictures. It seems though, that some people are calling their cinnamon a black pastel. I think there is a definite confusion in the market. I am leaning this direction because my first breeding with the snake would be with a spider and I like the looks of the cinnabee better than the black bee. Hopefully that first breeding would produce a male cinny which could be bred back to the mother the following year for a super. Those are my long term plans anyway.