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    Re: New BP soon, did I clean enough to keep this one alive?

    He has perfect temps, perfect humidity, perfect setup, perfectly cleaned tank, an "expert" friend, and the temps were "cranked up" to 88*f .

    Everything is perfect! You're all silly for trying to help someone who knows everything is perfect. Everyone here has been trying to achieve this for years, he has accomplished it much sooner! Why bother wasting your time?

    Now if you're serious about asking for help, listen closely.

    Hot spot - 90*F
    Ambient temps (temps everywhere the hot spot is not) - 80*F
    Substrate (the stuff on the floor of the tank) - newspaper, paper towel
    Water bowl - big, clean, filled with water (important)
    Hide - 2 hides identical.
    Tank - black out 3 sides if you want to see your snake. He will feel more comfortable and come out more.
    Humidity - 60% raise it if he sheds. Simple misting.
    CLEAN the old tank. If a snake died in there that was perfectly healthy before it came to you, odds are it's something there. Toss out everything but the glass. Especially that old substrate.
    Uth (under tank heater) - get one.
    Thermostat - controls the uth. Makes sure the heater stays at a steady temperature.

    Now that the set up is all done and has had a few days to get going. (temps are steady, humidity is good) you're ready to get your snake!

    When you get it, pop it in the enclosure. Leave it alone for a week. Feed it a prey item about the same width as the snake. If it eats you can start handling a few minutes every day. If it doesn't, come back here and we'll trouble shoot with you.

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    Re: New BP soon, did I clean enough to keep this one alive?

    ^^^^

    Good simple advice, gotta love it...Now why couldn't you post earlier lol?

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    Re: New BP soon, did I clean enough to keep this one alive?

    Wow drama, drama, drama. Follow the advice Dr. Del, Jeremy and Animals as leaders have given it’s all very sound advice. Most people here are very minimalistic with their setups, mostly because they are breeders and have several snakes. I however understand the desire to have a very pretty cage especially for 1 snake. I will explain what the zoo’s do to keep a clean natural looking environment.

    1.All naturalistic bedding is first kiln dried and heated to a degree so that nothing could possibly survive in the substrate. You can achieve this at home by baking the substrate in the oven at 250 degrees for 60 minutes, allow it to thoroughly cool before placing in the tank.

    2.Most of the logs, tree trunks, vines etc that you see in the zoo are made out of fiber glass and can be soaked and disinfected during clean downs, even the rocks are artificial.

    3.I do agree what everyone has said about log hides, I make my own for my kings and corns out of fiber glass it’s actually pretty easy however you really have to let it air out for quite some time before putting it in the tank. Baked clay also works pretty well, but you can’t soak it.

    As to your last snake dying, I am very sorry. If your snake did have a regurge it most likely had parasites and untreated they will kill your snake and sometimes before it even looks bad, that is one of the down sides of live pray, and is the reason I deworm all of my snakes every 6 months. Honestly though you will never know the cause because a necropsy wasn’t done. The best you can do is thoroughly clean the habitat and disinfect everything, throw out all off the porous stuff and start over.
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    Re: New BP soon, did I clean enough to keep this one alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ed4281 View Post
    Wow drama, drama, drama. Follow the advice Dr. Del, Jeremy and Animals as leaders have given it’s all very sound advice. Most people here are very minimalistic with their setups, mostly because they are breeders and have several snakes. I however understand the desire to have a very pretty cage especially for 1 snake. I will explain what the zoo’s do to keep a clean natural looking environment.

    1.All naturalistic bedding is first kiln dried and heated to a degree so that nothing could possibly survive in the substrate. You can achieve this at home by baking the substrate in the oven at 250 degrees for 60 minutes, allow it to thoroughly cool before placing in the tank.

    2.Most of the logs, tree trunks, vines etc that you see in the zoo are made out of fiber glass and can be soaked and disinfected during clean downs, even the rocks are artificial.

    3.I do agree what everyone has said about log hides, I make my own for my kings and corns out of fiber glass it’s actually pretty easy however you really have to let it air out for quite some time before putting it in the tank. Baked clay also works pretty well, but you can’t soak it.

    As to your last snake dying, I am very sorry. If your snake did have a regurge it most likely had parasites and untreated they will kill your snake and sometimes before it even looks bad, that is one of the down sides of live pray, and is the reason I deworm all of my snakes every 6 months. Honestly though you will never know the cause because a necropsy wasn’t done. The best you can do is thoroughly clean the habitat and disinfect everything, throw out all off the porous stuff and start over.
    You jeremy, Dr del, and Animals have been easily the best advice on here. thanks a lot.

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    Hi,

    I'm glad you were able to weed through all this and gain some valuable insight.
    I just want to say, wish you best of luck with your new BP, don't loose heart
    They are wonderful animals and you obviously care very much.

    Make sure you post pictures of your new baby !
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    Re: New BP soon, did I clean enough to keep this one alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by zina10 View Post
    Hi,

    I'm glad you were able to weed through all this and gain some valuable insight.
    I just want to say, wish you best of luck with your new BP, don't loose heart
    They are wonderful animals and you obviously care very much.

    Make sure you post pictures of your new baby !
    Much appreciated, i truly do care! I will post them asap, i am getting "it" on sunday =) so excited! Steelers vs Jets in the AFC championship game and a new BP, how can you have a better day?

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    Re: New BP soon, did I clean enough to keep this one alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by sicilian1928 View Post
    Steelers vs Jets in the AFC championship game and a new BP, how can you have a better day?
    That's easy to answer.

    Ravens vs Pats in the AFC Championship game, and two new BPs.

    Hahaha

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    Re: New BP soon, did I clean enough to keep this one alive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy78 View Post
    He has perfect temps, perfect humidity, perfect setup, perfectly cleaned tank, an "expert" friend, and the temps were "cranked up" to 88*f .

    Everything is perfect! You're all silly for trying to help someone who knows everything is perfect. Everyone here has been trying to achieve this for years, he has accomplished it much sooner! Why bother wasting your time?

    Now if you're serious about asking for help, listen closely.

    Hot spot - 90*F
    Ambient temps (temps everywhere the hot spot is not) - 80*F
    Substrate (the stuff on the floor of the tank) - newspaper, paper towel
    Water bowl - big, clean, filled with water (important)
    Hide - 2 hides identical.
    Tank - black out 3 sides if you want to see your snake. He will feel more comfortable and come out more.
    Humidity - 60% raise it if he sheds. Simple misting.
    CLEAN the old tank. If a snake died in there that was perfectly healthy before it came to you, odds are it's something there. Toss out everything but the glass. Especially that old substrate.
    Uth (under tank heater) - get one.
    Thermostat - controls the uth. Makes sure the heater stays at a steady temperature.

    Now that the set up is all done and has had a few days to get going. (temps are steady, humidity is good) you're ready to get your snake!

    When you get it, pop it in the enclosure. Leave it alone for a week. Feed it a prey item about the same width as the snake. If it eats you can start handling a few minutes every day. If it doesn't, come back here and we'll trouble shoot with you.
    Eloquently said. I will do this, I greatly appreciate your help.

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