Thanks thats good to hear I defiantly know what everyone is saying about tubs and I can understand they are easier as it did take a lot of time and effort to monitor the temps and fins exactly what works I have been monitoring it for 4 days straight more times than I can even think of and its been staying steady ... steady as in it might fluctuate 1-2 degrees at the most up or down which i think is expectable ...I will switch to tubs if I inquire getting another snake or ball python as I can see its easier and cheaper but for now Im going to leave it in the tank setup as its more appealing for me .... Right now Im just waiting it out as its only been in the tank since sunday and I fed him a rat last night ... so It sucks but I'm waiting to hold him hopefully he wont chew my finger off lol