Multiple burms per enclosure?

[mainbutter]

This is why I came and asked what you guys thought in the first place.

I have a book about consulting firms. Businesses will pay consulting firms for opinions, with the idea that it will make things better.

The book deals with "what happens when the advice you seek is ignored".

In general, if your advice is ignored, it means you didn't charge enough for it. Maybe BP.net members should start charging to give answers in threads, lol.

[Denial]

I was waiting for someone to bring up this point. Its not that I cant afford to own multiple snakes and buy mansions for each snake, I just would like to go a cheaper route. If I avoid spending $4-500 + plus shipping on an enclosure, I will. I live a comfortable lifestyle because I avoid unnecessary spending.

There is not option for a comfortable lifestyle with unnecessary spending when you own burmese pythons. People that go the "cheaper" route are the people that end up on the news and give the good reptile keepers a bad rep. I see no point in housing two pythons in the same cage if there not breeding. Feeding two large pythons in the same cage would not be fun. 400 to 500 dollars is not that bad knowing that you have a quality cage and your burm is happy and safe

[Wh00h0069]

Has anyone that posted here ever housed more than one snake together aside from breeding? I feel like everyone is posting fears based off hearsay and not experience.

I accidentally offered a rat to a boa that was in the same enclosure with another boa, and both grabbed on to the rat. Needless to say, it was very tough to separate them. Luckily, neither was hurt, but it could have easily went the other way. If you do decide to house them together, which I don't suggest, make sure you separate them when feeding. This would likely be pretty tough once they get some size to them.

[Sanchez]

There is not option for a comfortable lifestyle with unnecessary spending when you own burmese pythons. People that go the "cheaper" route are the people that end up on the news and give the good reptile keepers a bad rep.

Youre going out on a limb comparing me to reptile owners that " end up on the news and give the good reptile keepers a bad rep" considering you and no one on this forum at all knows anyhthing about me other than my 20~ some odd posts.

Feeding two large pythons in the same cage would not be fun.

Where did you get the idea that I would be feeding them together?

I accidentally offered a rat to a boa that was in the same enclosure with another boa, and both grabbed on to the rat. Needless to say, it was very tough to separate them. Luckily, neither was hurt, but it could have easily went the other way. If you do decide to house them together, which I don't suggest, make sure you separate them when feeding. This would likely be pretty tough once they get some size to them.

There's no way I would feed them together. Just like I told the other poster above you, I dont know where you guys got the idea I would be feeding both snakes at the same time in the same enclosure. I think this is another example of the posters here grasping onto the worst possible situation and trying to use that as a basis for a response instead of experience. The expression Ill use for this is fear mongering

This is getting ridiculous.

[Muddyredneck]

tword op, all the advice was excellent you should really take it and use it, there is no less is more with burms what are u gonna feed a 12 foot snake in? and then how are u gonna move it when it still wants to eat for the next 6 hours? my 6ft retic stays in feeding mode for a good 8-12 hours after eating and i couldent imagine touching him simply due to the danger

also i feel u have some seriously wrong info when it comes to burms period, a 6x2 isnt big enough for a female, thats a males size enclosure and alittle on the small side for that. trust me spend the money now and enjoy them at diffrent times very few people can appropriatly house multiple snakes together.. it CAN be done iv seen and read it but it was NEVER done for your reasons... EVER the people who do it have been working with reptiles for years and know their animals and dont simply try to save space or money..

i also noticed u get defencive when money is brought up, bud u didnt get two hamsters your talking 10-15 feet snakes here in the first 2 years there is no skimping theres minimal like racks and what not but u need to be able to support both (which u say u can) so i highly reccommend two diffrent enclosures for the welfare of the animals which u say u care about

[Denial]

Im just saying if you want to go a cheaper route maybe you should of thought more into getting two ball pythons or corn snakes. You came here asking opinions I gave you mine. You want two burms then buy two cages. Theres no reason to house them together other then breeding. Ever seen two large constrictors fight? Its a scary thing. In 2009 I tried to breed two reticulated pythons together. When I put the male in the cage the female flipped out on my male and they started to fight and I had to get in there and get them off of each other. I assumed I had missexed my female and thought it was just two males going at each other but I had three other people sex them and they were a male female pair. Some snakes just dont like each other. If you were going live in a 6X2 box would you want company taking up half of it?

[wolfy-hound]

The OP will end up doing whatever he likes in the end.

Why bother to show up and ask advice, if when everyone tells you their opinion based on fact, on things they've seen, on things they were told by others who experianced them... you'll just go "Pfft, you're just fear-mongering!"

I asked about it already, how are you going to move a 12 ft hungry snake to feed it.. then manage to get that 12 ft snake in feeding mode back into the cage with the OTHER feeding mode snake in it, when you aren't even suposed to handle them right after feeding? Why would you want to?

People here (as stated before) are not here to diss you or naysay your idea just because we want to make life difficult. Most everyone on the site are offering you advice because WE CARE ABOUT THE REPTILES. If you aren't thinking of the snake's needs and safety first, then you've missed the point of owning a pet.

You said you'd probably house them seperately, and that's great IF you do it. If you choose to ignore all the advice and house them together and something goes wrong, you won't get a whole lot of sympathy from the herp world. At BEST you'll have a possibly injured snake.. at WORST you will be injured and then we get another headline about how "dangerous" pythons are.

[DemmBalls]

Everyone is telling you it's a bad idea to house them together and that it should not be done. You say you can afford proper housing/care for each snake. Why are you still pushing to house them together? Reading through this thread...I would say your questions have been clearly answered. Best of luck to you.

[Sanchez]

I said I was going to get separate enclosures, see:

I appreciate everyone's input, I really do. I will probably just end up getting separate enclosures for each burm. I didnt think it would have been that big of a deal especially when I see a lot of breeders housing multiple burms together with seemingly no problems.

Everybody is still making posts so Im just responding to the posts. This is a valid discussion I think and its funny because everyone is getting butthurt over the whole thing. Im getting separate enclosures. There. Im done with this thread.

[wolfy-hound]

And thus why so many people stop bothering to answer people's questions on forums. "Butthurt" because we respond to comments like "people are just fear-mongering" and accusations that everyone is just making things up after folks take the time to spell out reasons why it's a bad idea.
"Should I do XX?"
"No"

"Why shouldn't I do XX?"
"Answers why"

"Well I think you're making it up"
"Screw off"

That's how it would happen on any less friendly site. On some sites you'd get called names to begin with for suggesting XX in the first place. On the friendly helpful site, people continue to offer advice and reasons why, and get called 'butthurt'.

Thanks for that. Good luck in the future.