very importent can some1 help me asap plz

[dr del]

Hi,

If you can get the temps to those levels in your wooden viv I'd say you are golden - assuming you are measuring with a good digital thermostat inside the hides where the snake actually is. If you are measuring half way up the wall with those little dial analogue junkers then notsomuch.

UTH's really can't get the heat through 1/4 inch of melamine very well so if you were forced to use on I would put it inside then put some kind of covering over it like glass or tile with a spacer of some description so the mat isn't completely sandwitched tight between the surfaces. You will need a hole to put the cable in anyway and enough space for the thermostat probe so add a few extra holes for airflow to the outside of the viv and then silicon seal it so it is completely watertight (or pee tight to be blunt ) from the inside.

Bit of a hassle really and the silicon would need at least 24 hours to cure before the snake could be put back in.

So, if your temps are fine 24/7, I probably wouldn't recommend it.

I kept royals in viv's with ceramic heaters for years before I moved to tubs - though it does murder the humidity.

Tubs win every time though - they suit the snakes natural behaviour and needs a lot better.


dr del

[steveboos]

Well snakes go when they want to go. Heck my Chondro might only poop once ever 5-6 weeks, so no big deal. I also have younger snakes that defecate every 3-5 days like clockwork.

Your temperatures sound fine, but if he is 985 grams, he should be eating a small or medium rat once ever 10-14 days.

[kasmiraross]

i glad my temps are fine its 33c in warm hide ? i like to only feed mice is this bad ?

[kasmiraross]

plus glad my snakes toilet worrys are ok was a bit worried but feel betta now

[kasmiraross]

heat sencor is in the hide some times he comes over from cool end and sits on it an sets it off.

[rdoyle]

ok I saw this on my corn snake forum they but a uth heater in the inside and then but 18 inc x 18 inc tile ontop of it and then sealed it in with silicone so the snake cant get to the the UTH just a idea

[kasmiraross]

Hi,

If you can get the temps to those levels in your wooden viv I'd say you are golden - assuming you are measuring with a good digital thermostat inside the hides where the snake actually is. If you are measuring half way up the wall with those little dial analogue junkers then notsomuch.

UTH's really can't get the heat through 1/4 inch of melamine very well so if you were forced to use on I would put it inside then put some kind of covering over it like glass or tile with a spacer of some description so the mat isn't completely sandwitched tight between the surfaces. You will need a hole to put the cable in anyway and enough space for the thermostat probe so add a few extra holes for airflow to the outside of the viv and then silicon seal it so it is completely watertight (or pee tight to be blunt ) from the inside.

Bit of a hassle really and the silicon would need at least 24 hours to cure before the snake could be put back in.

So, if your temps are fine 24/7, I probably wouldn't recommend it.

I kept royals in viv's with ceramic heaters for years before I moved to tubs - though it does murder the humidity.

Tubs win every time though - they suit the snakes natural behaviour and needs a lot better.


dr del

wont the viv be too heavy to sit on top of the under tank heater ?

[dr del]

Hi,

As I said I don't recommend it under the viv - but if you are determined to try then get some little feet from B&Q to lift the viv up off the floor and then tape the UTH to the underside.

That way there is no pressure on the mat and also a little airflow.


dr del

[xFenrir]

DON'T put a UTH in the tank. Your bp could get some nasty burns that way, or get too hot. That's why it's called an "under-tank heater"; it goes on the underside of the tank on the outside.
The one I got for my 40 gal. tank was about $25. Yeah, they're more expensive than heat bulbs/lamps but they're wonderful for a nice, regulated temperature. I use mine on the cool side and it keeps it exactly between 80-83F 24/7. Definitely worth the cost. (be sure there's space under your tank/tub to allow air flow so it doesn't trap heat and cook your snake by accident!!)

[kasmiraross]

DON'T put a UTH in the tank. Your bp could get some nasty burns that way, or get too hot. That's why it's called an "under-tank heater"; it goes on the underside of the tank on the outside.
The one I got for my 40 gal. tank was about $25. Yeah, they're more expensive than heat bulbs/lamps but they're wonderful for a nice, regulated temperature. I use mine on the cool side and it keeps it exactly between 80-83F 24/7. Definitely worth the cost. (be sure there's space under your tank/tub to allow air flow so it doesn't trap heat and cook your snake by accident!!)

if i got 1 it would be going outside the tank . your temps sound a bit to cold ?