Multiple gene males or females?

[Mattinho]

Hey am starting to build my collection and was wondering would I Be better buying/keeping multiple gene females and single gene males or multiple gene males and single females?

[Wh00h0069]

Multi gene males, since they can breed to multiple females. I have heard reports up to 13 in a season...

[Mattinho]

Multi gene males, since they can breed to multiple females. I have heard reports up to 13 in a season...

Thats what I was thinking. Wasn't sure if there were other benifits to multi gene females

[Serpent_Nirvana]

Thats what I was thinking. Wasn't sure if there were other benifits to multi gene females

The benefit of multi-gene females is that you can use them with your multi-gene males to make super-ultra-mega gene animals

However, in general, as has already been said, it's advised to go with multi-gene males and single-gene females unless you can afford to step it up to multi-gene everything.

I think the exception would be if you're able to afford a stable of more rare and valuable single-gene males, such as toffees, ultramels, bananas (good luck finding a male anywhere), etc., etc..

[Pinoy Pythons]

Since you are just starting out your collection, it would be better to obtain multiple gene males than females for the same reason they already stated. But as time goes by and your budget allows youto obtain more females, adding multiple gene females will surely give you high chances in hitting super multiple gene babies.

[muddoc]

I personally would buy as many multi-gened females as you can this year. Then after they have had a chance to put on some weight, and about a year of age, (i.e. about 1 year), then go find a multi-gened male (at a lower price, because it is a year later). You can pick up a Spinner male right now for about $600. I would bet next year, you could probably find one for about $400. That is a pretty good male to have, as it contains both of the more popular dominant pattern mutations. Using that male, I would get some females that would compliment him and look for those. I would look at things like Pastel Lessers or Pastel Mojaves. Any of the leucistic combination females would work well. Fireflys are another good option, or anything combined with YB.

Essentially, I am saying, pick a male combo you like, and then buy the females that would best compliment him. Buy the females, and then buy the male you decided on the following year. This method of starting a nice collection has been discussed plenty, and is a very good startegy.

I hope that helps,

[Freakie_frog]

I'm like Tim but the multi gene females now let them grow up for a year or two then look around and see what prices have done on males that will best go with them..

[DC Reptiles]

I woud like to have as much with both sexes, but right now I am going for the males since I have 12 normal females ready to go this season.

[loonunit]

Actually, I've recently thought of a pretty good argument in favor of multi-gene females: I'm trying to keep my "operation" small. It's just me taking care of these guys. AND we're stuck renting for a few more years, and my husband needs space too, and I just don't think I can handle more than 50 snakes total. I don't want more than 3 or 4 clutches in a year. With holdbacks that number will always be creeping upwards, so it will be a constant battle for space... Anyway, I want all my morphs to play well together, and I want all my females to already have something special going on.

But if you want to make as many morphs as possible for a small amount of starting cash, and you're willing to provide housing and food for all of the results, then yeah. Put the money in a few big-bang males, and grab up as many normal and single-gene females as you can.

[mainbutter]

In anything with selective breeding, be it horses, cows, dogs, or even snakes, the proven way to maximize the number of high quality offspring produced and minimize both total costs and below-average-quality offspring is with a super high-quality stud male paired with multiple females (as high quality as you are then able to find).

This is why for more common morphs, females are generally more expensive, and for the rarest morphs, males take the cake in price.