Clutch size concerning co-doms

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But do Pastels sell easier then Het Albinos? I would think so... Do they sell for more than Het Albinos? I thinks so.... How much were Het Albinos five years ago?

I have quite a few Pastel 100% Het for Albinos from Super Pastel Albino breedings. At the shows I have been to, I have had just about 0 interest. One girl wanted a Pastel and said mine was better looking, but did not want to pay extra (I had a very decent price). It not only takes money to buy the snake, but you have to put trust into another breeder when you buy hets, and we have seen plenty of people take advantage of that. To add about visual recessives, I had no problems moving my Pastel Albinos. Just my experience.

Yes, pastels do sell for more than male het albinos, but around the same price as females hets. But then again, it is easier / cheaper to reproduce pastels than it is albinos from a het. It just seems to me that so many people are mass producing pastels, that they are hard to sell unless you lower your price. Why would someone buy from x breeder for x amount when they can get it for cheaper buy hundreds of other breeders? I predict this to happen to every codom morph, eventually. Their prices have been dropping drastically, and I can see why. Supply and demand. They are too easy to mass produce.

I am surprised that you did not have any interest in your pastel het albinos, unless they were males. I sold all of my pastel het ghost females very quickly, but no one was interested in the males. This is for the same reason is it is tough to sell het males for anything but normal prices. There is no use for them. You have much better odds of producing a visual by breeding a visual to a het. Since one male can breed multiple females, it only makes sense to breed one visual male to multiple het females. It is more cost efficient this way.

On the one hand, I also want to say: Look at het albinos. People are pretty much giving them away.. especially male hets.

On the other hand, most pastels these days look like crap, which I believe is causing poor prices. Pairing a male pastel with the cheapest normal brown females you can find will make poor looking pastels. A good looking pastel female hatchling still can command $200. While some may snub their nose at $200, that's far from "giving an animal away for free".

In addition, if you look at hatchling female pastel prices from 08, and compare them to a 1000-1500g female pastel today (likely an 08), you'll see that as the animal grew, it gained value.

I'd say there still is perceived market value in pastels.

I have heard this argument before, and it does make sense. However, this is not always the case. There are so many people out there that think about money before the quality of the animal before purchasing. They want a pastel, but want to find the best deal. Many people are not willing to pay extra for a better looking pastel. Now this may be different for higher priced morphs, but not normally for pastels because they are too easy to acquire. So many people are breeding them.

In my opinion, the only way to make money on pastels is to create combos with then, and visual simple recessive / pastel are going to hold their value a lot longer than codom / codom combos.