Tron Legacy: What a disappointment

[anatess]

Your entire synopsis is seriously flawed. Let me try to recap.
The first movie sets up that programs are much like humans. They have emotions and complex personalities. It ends with two programs kissing. So lets go through your points.
I think that the first 20 minutes setup the movie nicely. The movie was longer thus more time went into the setup.
I don't think it Lame at all that the Grid is in Flynn's Arcade. I work for a company and I have some of the code that we use running at my house on lesser hardware. This is not a big deal to me.
The iso's are computer programs that popped into the Grid from nothing. Again I don't see the problem.
Flynn thinks that humans can study the DNA like code of the ISO's and learn new ways to deal with disease and stuff.
The entire first movie was just some willy-nilly creation from writer's poor understanding of computers. Your elevating it to something more is misplaced.
Clu reprogrammed Tron to be his enforcer. I don't see the problem given that Flynn reprogrammed Clu to be intelligent.
Again the first movie has programs with human emotions. They have buildings and landscapes. A dance club didn't seem like a stretch to me. Flynn was trying to make the Grid better. How could a place be perfect without a bar.
Clu needed Flynn's disk to get out. Thats why he chased them. When Sam uses the disk to get out Flynn draws Clu back in. Watch the movie closer.

So let me get this straight. You have no problem with a laser being used to transport a human into a computer. No problem with computers from the early 80's running something as complex as a human brain alongside a bunch of programs that are equally complex. For two movies now they have setup that computer programs are just like people but for the life of you, you can't accept that a program could come out of the computer? I reject your entire post.

Before I can reply to this.... I have to ask - are you a programmer?

Because, the answer to that will be the difference to your understanding of the Tron cult.

It's a movie - so, of course, you can make it what you want it to be - I mean - that's what world-building in movies is all about, e.g. Star Wars, Aliens, Avatar, Matrix, etc. etc. But, for ANY of those movies, the world has RULES. For example - in Avatar, the concept is that you can transport your mind into another being. There are rules to that - for example - they established the rule that you need the machine thingee to transport your mind to your avatar - well and good. The writers can CHANGE that, of course, but it still has to follow that Rule - so that when Jake's mind transported to his avatar in the end without the machine, they required the eywa connection to replace the machine. No rule broken. So that, to the movie goers, the suspension of disbelief can be retained because it all still makes sense in an alternative reality - it is still "real" according to the movie.

Okay, in the movie Inception - the architect can build the world of the dream in any shape or form or function. But, if he changes it sooo much that it stops to make sense the subconscious starts to suspect something is not real. This kinda explains suspension of disbelief. I love watching movies. It's what I do when I have time and money. I like being transported into an alternate reality - so that science fiction is one of my favorite genres. But that alternate reality can only be sustained if you put it in a world that makes sense. And "sense" is created using rules.

Tron had a concept that had rules. And you did not understand the Tron concept if you think that the Tron programs gained "human emotions" on their own. That's not the rule. The rule is that all programs are created by their users and all their "personality" is a product of that programming.

Clu (the original, not the legacy version) was Flynn's hacking program that tried to hack into the MCP and got de-rezzed (deleted) - so he looks like Flynn.

RAM was a silly little program who welcomes everybody because he is RAM - a small part of an insurance program running on the computer's Random Access Memory bank.

Bit does nothing but flits around and says Yes or No - because he is just a BIT (okay, non-programmers may not know what that is - it's an on/off toggle state of one electrical data signal).

TRON is a militaristic humorless representation who is suspicious of everybody - because he is a security program written by Allen. Allen has a relationship with Laura in the real world. Laura wrote Yori, a digital simulator program that creates digital representations of real world objects. Because Allen and Laura are shown as having a relationship in the real world - their programs have a relationship - that is, Allen wrote Tron as a security program that will trust Laura's programs.

And... Flynn has emotions and can kiss anybody he wants inside the computer because... FLYNN IS A USER. He doesn't follow any programming. That's why he is like a god in there.

They have buildings and landscapes because it is a computer network - the digital simulation of your computer hardware - although vague on the movie, it is hinted that Laura built those simulations with the Yori program, that's why Yori knows her way around especially the path to the Solar Sailer. If you notice, the grid is composed of box buildings with straight lines passing through them - have you opened up your PC? The grid looks just like your motherboard. The Solar Sailer is your network ports that connect one computer to another. That's how you go to the mainframe.

And yes, I have no problem with CLU re-programming Tron. That's what the MCP was - a program to absorb other programs and re-tool them or de-rez them (delete). That's the MCP's programming. So, CLU getting the programming from Flynn to find imperfections and make them perfect is completely a Tron concept. What I'm iffy on - which I said I can buy it but it's tough to do with everything else I had to buy - is that Tron somehow changed his programming on the fly without the benefit of a programmer (broke the rules) - but I said I can buy this by benefit of a remnant of his security programming from Allen.

A social network doesn't make sense as a program by itself - because nobody would write a program that does nothing but socializes and parties with other programs without benefit to the users. What makes sense is something like Facebook where users interact with other users through their programs/avatars in a social network program... which is hokey in a 1989 defunked video game arcade.

And yes, a program becoming human doesn't make sense in the Tron world without something to propel it there. Because, like I said - the iso's don't make a lick of sense in the computer world, especially when the writers made the grid isolated from everything else.

The experimental digitizer program that Laura created propelled Flynn into the computer. That's sci-fi that makes sense. An iso becoming human without any reasonable means of becoming so doesn't make sense... because, the entire concept of the Tron movie was the user/programs dynamic. You can't abandon that without proper explanation of how that came to be. Especially when you just throw a "whoa" concept there of the iso's somehow curing cancer and ending the war on terror or what-not.

Okay, so you don't understand a word I'm saying... I'm gonna go talk to my fellow geeks and get some love now...