Just my final update before i open my new thread in a couple weeks I just got done Emailing Frankie and he will resume shipping Jan.3 since the most people use fed ex to ship he is right those people could care less and don't properly handle the packages anyway... so hopefully i will be a snake owner EARLY January it's going to be a Female Normal Ball Python sooo excited now all i need are some names i got a couple but thats a secret will post Pics ASAP and will be Lurking in the chat and on the forums like a silent forum ninja anyway Thank you Everyone for your comments and helpful tips