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Re: bumblebee?
 Originally Posted by JLC
In my own internal logic, I always figured that if a combo is called "anything-bee" then it SHOULD have both pastel and spider, plus whatever else is in there that causes a different name. However, that is not the case. A "lesser-bee" is a spider x lesser. A "queen bee" is a spider-pastel-lesser.
I guess a stinger-bee is simply an enchi x a spider...but frankly, my rickety old memory has a hard time keeping up with all the different combo names. Personally, I prefer to stick with remembering the names of the base morphs...and then calling the combos by what they are. (ie: spider/pastel/lesser) But that's just me. 
yeah i was just telling my husband last night that there's to many blasted
combo nick names to memorize than ensure that you remember
what is in that combo.
but stinger bee's are sweet! the bright stripe(not a real stripe but) down the dorsal's are sick!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfmwdFHTvVM ralph davis's video shows what i mean!
Last edited by sookieball; 12-05-2010 at 05:52 PM.
0.1 Normal (Sookie)
1.0 Pastel (Syler)
0.1 BumbleBee (Scully)
1.0 Butter (Gimme)
0.1 Mojave (Saffy)
1.0 Albino (Leopold)
1.0 Pinstripe (Triston)
1.0 Basset/Beagle Mix (Bilbo)
0.1 Basset Hound (Mimi)
a bunch of red eared sliders
and the oldest, male pit/mix Corky. 18yrs strong.
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I was searching the web the other day and came across a killerbee.. And for the killerbee it said something interesting.. It said that a Killerbee = Super Pastel X Spider
But everything here says that Super Pastel (or normal Pastel) X spider = Bumblebee...anyone have more information on this?
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1.10 Normal - Hades . Zues and company
1.0 Lesser - " "
1.0 66% het pied - Perses
1.0 Spider - Eros
1.0 Pastel YB - Helios
0.1 Pastel - Rhea
0.1 Pied
1.0 Pinstripe
Redtail Boa
1.0 Tiki
Bearded Dragon
1.0 Cronus
Crested Geckos
0.0.1 Red Tiger
0.0.1 Orange Dalmatian
0.0.1 Cream Harlequin partial pin
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Re: bumblebee?
 Originally Posted by Tidus10
I was searching the web the other day and came across a killerbee.. And for the killerbee it said something interesting.. It said that a Killerbee = Super Pastel X Spider
But everything here says that Super Pastel (or normal Pastel) X spider = Bumblebee...anyone have more information on this?
yea i thought it was
super pastel x spider = killerbee
thats the way i have always known it.
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Re: bumblebee?
To make a killerbee you need both parents to carry the pastel gene.
Super pastel X Spider = 50% pastels and 50% bumblebees by odds
Jerry Robertson

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pastel / spider = bumble bee
pastel / pastel / spider = killer bee
Since a parent can only pass 1 gene of a set to the babies, you have to have both parents with a pastel gene to pass along. So if the babie gets 1 spider gene from a parent and each parent passes along a pastel gene you get a supper pastel spider = killer bee.
When breading a killer bee it will always pass 1 pastel gene and 50/50 chance on passing a spider gene.
1.0 Bumble Bee
1.0 Cinny het Albino
0.1 Albino
0.3 Pastel
0.1 BEL (Lesser x Mojave)
0.1 Pinstripe
0.2 Normal
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i dont think anyone mentioned .. super pastel / bumblebee .. i always thought this is how you get killerbee...
thanks
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Re: bumblebee?
Hi,
 Originally Posted by Tidus10
I was searching the web the other day and came across a killerbee.. And for the killerbee it said something interesting.. It said that a Killerbee = Super Pastel X Spider
But everything here says that Super Pastel (or normal Pastel) X spider = Bumblebee...anyone have more information on this?
You're confusing the ingredients with the recipie. 
A killerbee contains a superpastel (ie 2 pastel genes ) and spider.
To make one however both parents needs to have a pastel gene to pass on and at least one of them also has to have a spider gene.
To summarise a killerbee is a superpastel spider but cannot be made by pairing a superpastel and a spider.
Does that make it any clearer?
dr del
Derek
7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.
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Spider has to be atleast on 1 side and atleast 1 pastel has to be on both sides of the pairing to even get the chance of a killerbee..
Best odds would be 2 killer bees pairing.. lol making all offsrping atleast a superpastel and each parent would have a 50% chance of passing the spider gene.
1.0 Bumble Bee
1.0 Cinny het Albino
0.1 Albino
0.3 Pastel
0.1 BEL (Lesser x Mojave)
0.1 Pinstripe
0.2 Normal
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Re: bumblebee?
this has been bothering me but u all keep sayin that the parents can only pass on one gene which doesnt make sense because how would u get multiple gene animals like some of nerds 4 or 5 morph snakes that he has produced
way i see it is like this
To get a Bumblebee u need pastel x spider
then to get killerbee u breed that bumblebee x pastel
or get a superpastel x spider
because bumblebee gene is a gene that can be passed on right?
thats the way i understand it
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Re: bumblebee?
 Originally Posted by ahunt037
this has been bothering me but u all keep sayin that the parents can only pass on one gene which doesnt make sense because how would u get multiple gene animals like some of nerds 4 or 5 morph snakes that he has produced
way i see it is like this
To get a Bumblebee u need pastel x spider
then to get killerbee u breed that bumblebee x pastel
or get a superpastel x spider
because bumblebee gene is a gene that can be passed on right?
thats the way i understand it
Each Parent can only pass on one copy of any given gene it has. A Spider can pass on 1 spider gene. A Bumblebee has 2 genes (concerning its color/patern) it can pass on 1 Pastel and 1 Spider. A Killerbee will pass on 1 Pastel gene and can pass on 1 Spider gene.
Each parent has the same ability to pass on its genes.
A Spider can not pass on 2 Spider genes (it doesn't have 2 to pass on either). A Bumblebee can not pass on 2 Pastel or 2 Spider genes (again it doesnt have 2 it could pass anyways). A Killerbee can not pass on 2 Pastel or 2 Spider genes (it does have 2 copies of the pastel gene but it can ONLY pass on 1 copy).
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