yeahh i was looking at the spotteds or childrens, anthills are way out of my budget or i would, well the reason im asking is i finally talked my girlfriend into buying me a snake and setup for christmas (im buying her an i-phone 4) well anyway u want to get a snake that isnt going to get too big but i want somthing that i can see in its cage (ball python always hiding haha milk snakes always hiding still love them though) anyway im trying to find a python that stays in the smaller range anyone know any breeders that are local to the bay area california