Quote Originally Posted by steveboos View Post
Well basically the theory is that if you push too hard or not in the correct spot you can damage or tear the internal organs. For males if you push too hard you might stress the hemipenes which could result in inverted hemipenes over time. This is fairly rare, but its always good to have someone experienced do it.
OMG ouchie! well thanks to Valentine Pirate I think I at least have a prospective vet for my little one we will see when I call later this week.