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[Dragon Queen]

I was just wondering if anyone would be willing to help me out. I am trying to plan my breeding projects, for when I decide to start expanding my collection. I'm not 100% sure I will, but I thought if I know what I need, then I can keep my eye out for the perfect snake while I am waiting to decide (finding the perfect snake will mean decision over of course. lol)

I think, considering that I have a pinstripe, a Kingpin is a good goal. From what I understand, that would be pinstripe x lesser (are lesser platinum and lesser the same).

I have also come across some pictures of the Queen Bee morph, and nearly fell over. I know that it requires a spider (one of my favorites, what I had originally wanted) a lesser (which works with my kingpin plans) and a pastel. I was wondering how I would breed them together (what order) and what my chances are of getting the baby(s) I want, for both projects.


Thanks so much!

-Draba

[millcityballs]

a very usefull tool..........http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

[Dragon Queen]

Thanks! I have tried using that before but it doesn't help me with how to get the Queen Bee.

[JLC]

Yes, lesser and lesser-platinum are the same.

A queen bee will take more than one generation to establish, unless you buy a bee right off the bat.

Spider x pastel = bee
bee x lesser = queen bee

Of course, there's no guarantees on hitting the odds, but that is how one goes about it. You could also do:

lesser x spider = lesser-bee
lesser-bee x pastel = queen bee

...or any similar combination. Obviously the quickest way would be to get a bee to start with.

[A&S Reptiles]

To achieve the queen bee you'll want a bumble bee and a lesser. And of course some luck with hitting the queen bee. A female lesser would be a good choice and you can even breed the bee and your pin to her in one season and get a mixed clutch. With this you could produce a queen bee or king pin or even both!

[millcityballs]

pastel lesser x spider or bumble bee x lesser or lesser bee x pastel.

[smd58]

Nothing says you can't have more then one project going at a time. Seems every time you pick up a snake it can be used to make a lot of different morps.

[Dragon Queen]

Thank you! This is all very helpful. I think it makes the most sense to go with a Bee. I have been wanting one anyways, and it means I will only have to get 2 snakes, the bee and a lesser.

[millcityballs]

.....and you'll need to do a little

[Subdriven]

If you start with single morphs you would need 2 of the three to first hit in the same snake like using a spider and a pastel to try to make a bee. Then when you hit that you grow that animal and add the the 3rd gene which in this case will be the lesser. Then you have to hope that all 3 genes hit in 1 animal. You can up your chances and time if you either buy a duel gene of the 3 or by a super version of the pastel or lesser (there is no super spider). The super form will up your chances to pass atleast 1 of the genes along to the babies.

In the end you are trying to get all 3 gene's to be in 1 animal and each gene has a 50% chance.