Quote Originally Posted by MitsuMike View Post
And using dial gauges for ambient temps (no hot spot gauge) and a humidity dial gauge is not skimping? Dial gauges work at well as the weather rock.
Atleast some stores "try" and keep animals alive. But trying is not good enough.
Why are you defending a chain of store that pretty much buy from reptile mills? B/c a few stores do it somewhat right is it ok? Not so much.
No, I would classify no gauges as skimping. They are regulating the temperatures and while ambient temperature isn't as good as specific spots, it does still keep the animal in good health. What proof do you have that all their animals come from reptile mills? Do you have an article from an investigation? I've seen no proof of this from my local store as they don't just carry normals, they have morphs as well occasionally and the reptiles appear to be in good condition. So, demonizing every pet store that isn't a specific small breeder rather than letting someone decide on the health of an animal and the animal's care at their local store is better? I'm not defending all stores. Some don't do anything well enough to keep their animals alive. All I'm saying is, they're not all are the same. The store I shop at and the store my friends work at both take very good care of their reptiles and have reptile keepers working in their reptile section or they have people that want to learn more about them. I had a 30 minute conversation with one of the employees about her personal snakes and geckos and on a different day I talked to a girl while looking at their ball python and when I told her I already had two bp's she asked me a few questions about them to pretty much confirm what she was told to do with them there. Don't burn a store at the stake because you had a bad experience or your store doesn't take care of their animals. If the store you go to doesn't take care of their animals, report them. If you have information about a large chain pet store getting reptiles from reptile mills, please post it so I can read it and bring it to my store to speak to them about, but usually, the stores don't get a choice in who they get reptiles from, corporate usually says who to use.