Climbing Balls

[blushingball419]

Oh! good idea! We go to Dollar Tree alot for cheap snacks and such, they might have some cheap houseplants. But a question, is there anything I should look for? I don't want to get any type of plastic that might hurt her or make her sick.

Look for the ones with softer leaves, I think sometimes they call them "silk." The harder plastic ones probably aren't bad either, but I'm sure the softer ones are nicer to climb and crawl through all the time And then just make sure to rinse them off thoroughly to get rid of any residues that might be on them.

[thedarkwolf25]

And there is problem in itself

How is that a problem? My temps are fine and so is the humididty. I also stated that I am using 1 ReptiTherm UTH and am looking at getting another so I can ditch one or both of the heat lamps. The setup works for me so don't get mad just because you don't agree with it.

Look for the ones with softer leaves, I think sometimes they call them "silk." The harder plastic ones probably aren't bad either, but I'm sure the softer ones are nicer to climb and crawl through all the time And then just make sure to rinse them off thoroughly to get rid of any residues that might be on them.

Will do, thanks for that!

[MitsuMike]

How is that a problem? My temps are fine and so is the humididty. I also stated that I am using 1 ReptiTherm UTH and am looking at getting another so I can ditch one or both of the heat lamps. The setup works for me so don't get mad just because you don't agree with it.



Will do, thanks for that!

I'm not mad. It's your snake, if you feel like providing it improper setup then have at it.
There is a proper way to house a snake and there are ways "to get away with it". I am just a firm believer in that you do things RIGHT the first time and don't half*** stuff. If I kept animals like that, I would stop keeping them. Sure, is your snake eating and shedding good? Yes. Alot of animals can adapt to improper setups and thrive, BUT it doesn't mean you should set it up as such.
Like I said there is the BEST way to do things and there other ways. Can a snake live, eat and shed in both? Yes. But wouldn't you want to provide your pet with the PROPER environment. And I am not just referring to your heating setup, there are way to many things to say and waste my time telling you. Because your snake is "eating and shedding well"......

[thedarkwolf25]

I'm not mad. It's your snake, if you feel like providing it improper setup then have at it.
There is a proper way to house a snake and there are ways "to get away with it". I am just a firm believer in that you do things RIGHT the first time and don't half*** stuff. If I kept animals like that, I would stop keeping them. Sure, is your snake eating and shedding good? Yes. Alot of animals can adapt to improper setups and thrive, BUT it doesn't mean you should set it up as such.
Like I said there is the BEST way to do things and there other ways. Can a snake live, eat and shed in both? Yes. But wouldn't you want to provide your pet with the PROPER environment. And I am not just referring to your heating setup, there are way to many things to say and waste my time telling you. Because your snake is "eating and shedding well"......

You still didn't answer the question, how it is a problem? Do you even have an answer or do you just want to go on some holier-than-thou crusade because I do something you don't agree with?

By all means enlighten me as to how horrible my setup is and how poorly my animal is being cared for.

[JLC]

Telling people bad husbandry tips isn't a way to help out a new keeper, starting bad practices is not a way to start.

I didn't see anyone giving out bad husbandry advice. Just because someone doesn't do it the exact same way you do it doesn't make it "bad."

I do want to get some plants to put in there so the tank isn't so bare looking, just not sure what kind to use, all the ones that Petsmart sells seem so sparse.

Craft stores and Walmart usually have lots of different fake vines to choose from as well. The hard plastic ones are easier to sanitize...the silk ones are prettier. Up to you. I can't think of any specific restrictions for such things.

I'm not mad. It's your snake, if you feel like providing it improper setup then have at it.
There is a proper way to house a snake and there are ways "to get away with it". I am just a firm believer in that you do things RIGHT the first time ...

Here's the thing, Mike...it's not up to you to determine what's "right" for everyone else. You should most certainly offer your opinion on what might be better solutions....but to just jump in a thread and start scolding people for "bad husbandry advice" and telling others their set up is all wrong, just because it's not how you like it..... There ARE different ways to go about caring for these animals that are all just fine. And while there are some very obvious "wrong" ways, none of those "wrong" ways are coming across here. There is no reason to be so arrogant in your approach to simple husbandry differences.

[thedarkwolf25]

We went to Dollar tree and picked up some of the vine type plants. I think it looks a bit more lively in there now, and she is certainly curious about the new additions

[blushingball419]

very nice!! I always love watching them explore new things!

[MitsuMike]

I didn't see anyone giving out bad husbandry advice. Just because someone doesn't do it the exact same way you do it doesn't make it "bad."



Craft stores and Walmart usually have lots of different fake vines to choose from as well. The hard plastic ones are easier to sanitize...the silk ones are prettier. Up to you. I can't think of any specific restrictions for such things.



Here's the thing, Mike...it's not up to you to determine what's "right" for everyone else. You should most certainly offer your opinion on what might be better solutions....but to just jump in a thread and start scolding people for "bad husbandry advice" and telling others their set up is all wrong, just because it's not how you like it..... There ARE different ways to go about caring for these animals that are all just fine. And while there are some very obvious "wrong" ways, none of those "wrong" ways are coming across here. There is
no reason to be so arrogant in your approach to simple husbandry differences.

Telling people to have a basking spot of 82-85 false info in "experience" is bad info.

I not saying my way is "right", as you say, but it is the BEST way, like I have already said. And you can keep a dog over the winter in a unheated dog house that is too small for it. The dog will eat, drink and lick your face BUT is it the "right" way? Depends on the person......is it the BEST? No.
An over sized tank for a bp of that size would have been simply solved by researching. A climbing log for a ground snake who borrow and not climb, which has also been proven to possibly hurt you snake is not the smartest thing I've seen done. Also having a towel resting on a HEAT lamp isn't the wisest thing as well. As far as heating it's been said time and time and time and time and oh yea time again heat lamps.....no, uth.......yes. Having all sides of the tank open glass without a covering to help the ball feel more secure. Simple things that are the BEST way to do things.

I mean, another example. Let's say you lock your child in a closet for its whole life. Let out for "play time" once daily for exercise. Now is it the wrong way to raise a child? I mean the kid eats and grows right? Wrong we don't do that b/c it's not the BEST way to do things.

I'm arrogant b/c i do the best way not a way just to get the job done......aka your guys "right" way. I do things the best way b/c I care and respect my animals. It speaks miles about people by the way you "care" for an animal.

[thedarkwolf25]

Telling people to have a basking spot of 82-85 false info in "experience" is bad info.

I not saying my way is "right", as you say, but it is the BEST way, like I have already said. And you can keep a dog over the winter in a unheated dog house that is too small for it. The dog will eat, drink and lick your face BUT is it the "right" way? Depends on the person......is it the BEST? No.
An over sized tank for a bp of that size would have been simply solved by researching. A climbing log for a ground snake who borrow and not climb, which has also been proven to possibly hurt you snake is not the smartest thing I've seen done. Also having a towel resting on a HEAT lamp isn't the wisest thing as well. As far as heating it's been said time and time and time and time and oh yea time again heat lamps.....no, uth.......yes. Having all sides of the tank open glass without a covering to help the ball feel more secure. Simple things that are the BEST way to do things.

I mean, another example. Let's say you lock your child in a closet for its whole life. Let out for "play time" once daily for exercise. Now is it the wrong way to raise a child? I mean the kid eats and grows right? Wrong we don't do that b/c it's not the BEST way to do things.

I'm arrogant b/c i do the best way not a way just to get the job done......aka your guys "right" way. I do things the best way b/c I care and respect my animals. It speaks miles about people by the way you "care" for an animal.

You don't seem to be able to read OR accurately look at pictures. The heat lamps are not ON the towels they are next to them and the towels are dampened daily to help maintain humidity (since heat lamps eat humidity). I have already stated that I have 1 ReptiTherm UTH for 50-60 gallon tanks on the right side to help with hotspot temps, and that I am getting another one so I can lose 1 or both of the heat lamps.

You ARE correct about the size of the tank being too large, however I can easily get a tub system for her if she was at all stressed (which she is not). And as for a climbing log for a ground snake she CHOOSES to climb it, I don't PUT her there for my amusement or some strange sense that that is where she belongs. I got it mainly for decoration. Hell when I bought her she was climbing the thermometers attached to her tank at the pet store. I've done plenty of research and have the health of my animal in mind at all times.

You're pitching a fit because I don't do it the exact same way you do (the "right way" in your mind). So long as my snake is eating regularly, has a good temp gradient and the necessary humidity and a hide she has everything she needs. But I've wasted too much time trying to get through your arrogance and am going to let this thread die.

[kitedemon]

Thanks Judy!
Well Said!

OP if you do get plants at walmart ect. check one thing sometimes the dyes or paints use will rub off. especially true of grass like plant bunches, I always rub one leaf in the store and see if any colour transfers. I avoid any that does transfer.

And Mike are you sure yours are not improper? No snake should ALWAYS be in its hides. Perhaps you have something that isn't quite right.