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    Re: Why 3 months of quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    I hate to break this to you guys, but paramyxovirus has an incubation period of up to ten months.
    Where did you get this information? I googled it, and what I found (which all referred to humans, so I realize it may not be relevant) was talking about incubation periods that were measured in days, not months.
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    Re: Why 3 months of quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by kc261 View Post
    Where did you get this information? I googled it, and what I found (which all referred to humans, so I realize it may not be relevant) was talking about incubation periods that were measured in days, not months.
    They got it from this: http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s....php?p=1264310
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    Re: Why 3 months of quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    The only thing I found in that thread was another place where WingedWolfPsion said the same thing. I'd like to know where the information came from originally.
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    Re: Why 3 months of quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by boasandballs View Post
    Well I have both boas and balls. Long ago I had them in the same room but do to expansion, and the higher temps maintained in the Ball room we moved the boas out. We now have 1200 sq foot for boas and 900 sq feet for balls. Qt is in several different rooms. If it came from 2 different places it qts in different rooms.

    Now as far as my practices on QTing. Boas that are under a year are qted for 3-6 months. 1-2 years old are qted for 6 months to a year. (yes I am super paranoid). Balls are qted for 2-3 months. Best part of this is if anything weird happens. The qt time starts over.

    Long and short. I don't get much new each year. I tell people I am my own best customer.
    But after Q.....of all the animals. Are you anal about keeping them totally apart for fear that one of your Boas might be a carrier of IBD? I am just really curious about this....sorry to question you so much. Just trying to understand. Thank you so much for teaching me!!!!
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    Re: Why 3 months of quarantine?

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    But after Q.....of all the animals. Are you anal about keeping them totally apart for fear that one of your Boas might be a carrier of IBD? I am just really curious about this....sorry to question you so much. Just trying to understand. Thank you so much for teaching me!!!!

    To tell the truth, they are in two different rooms. But I will work in the ball room 85 degrees. Until I can stand it no more and then I will work in the boa room. I have tort and chameleons in the boa room also.

    The reason I don't worry much is
    1) I don't buy much at all, and if I do it's always baby boas. The reason is because they are not as strong as adults and if they have it they die.
    2) Most everything I have is offspring of animals I have kept for a long time.
    3) If anything dies I have a necropsy done.
    I've always been a boa girl at heart.
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    Re: Why 3 months of quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by BPelizabeth View Post
    But after Q.....of all the animals. Are you anal about keeping them totally apart for fear that one of your Boas might be a carrier of IBD? I am just really curious about this....sorry to question you so much. Just trying to understand. Thank you so much for teaching me!!!!
    I re read your post, and you are right. Boas can be healthy and be carriers of IBD. They can infect their partner and pass it on the their babies. If you have a clutch of babies that don't do well, that is when you test the parents. Live liver biopsies are not cheap but the peace of mind is priceless.

    Dr Klinengerg developed a blood test for IBD. Sadly the drug companies said is was not profitable to produce it for commercial use. It does not give a definite no (it does not have it) but it will not give a false yes.
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    Re: Why 3 months of quarantine?

    Thank you for all of that info. Just something my hubby and I were discussing and I always wondered!!

    Wow...can't take 85 for very long....you wouldnt last long here in AZ with us huh.....lol
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    Re: Why 3 months of quarantine?

    Here is the info on the Snake Virus Paramyxovirus.

    http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptil...myxovirus.aspx

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    After having done ALL of my research, I now quarantine for 12 full months. Paramyxovirus can incubate with no more symptoms than an intermittent appetite for over 10 months!! (This info came from online accounts, and also I confirmed this with my veterinarian when I discussed whether blood tests for paramyxovirus were available--accurate tests are not available, by the way, or I would test every animal instead of quarantining for a year).

    I try to purchase new animals all around the same time, over the course of a few months, then keep them separate from the rest of the collection for a year. I can breed them in quarantine, after all, just not to animals in my main collection. It simply is not worth the risk to bring an animal in to the main collection which could be carrying a deadly and contagious disease.

    90 days may be enough time for most viral illnesses to present, but not all of them...if you're going to quarantine at all, why would you skip quarantining for one of the biggest baddest diseases out there?

    This is not being over-cautious. These diseases are not rare enough, and the risk is just too high.
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