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    New need collection assistance :D

    Hey everyone I need a bit of help starting off my collection, ive always wanted to have ball pythons now i have the chance and the room to start a collection. I got my 1st snake a month ago I thinks it is a male normal but he looks a bit liek a vanilla. But I need help with what morphs i sould start off my collection with to make some gems like all of you. I know a bit about crossing morph and what comes out and some times it takes 2 of the same morph to make super or different morph.
    But what should i get? im getting a male and female normal so i can make more morphs when i buy them but what ones? im thinking Mojave, Vanilla, Pastel, Axanthic but what do you recomend.

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    Re: New need collection assistance :D

    Quote Originally Posted by Akren_905 View Post
    Hey everyone I need a bit of help starting off my collection, ive always wanted to have ball pythons now i have the chance and the room to start a collection. I got my 1st snake a month ago I thinks it is a male normal but he looks a bit liek a vanilla. But I need help with what morphs i sould start off my collection with to make some gems like all of you. I know a bit about crossing morph and what comes out and some times it takes 2 of the same morph to make super or different morph.
    But what should i get? im getting a male and female normal so i can make more morphs when i buy them but what ones? im thinking Mojave, Vanilla, Pastel, Axanthic but what do you recomend.
    i like pinstripes to
    Last edited by BuckeyeBalls; 11-21-2010 at 03:44 PM.
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    ive seen pinstripes they are amazing but is that a dominate gene? or recesive? i was told with some snakes i need pair i think those are ones i was told of.

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    start with the morph you like the most.

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    see im not sure what is a base morph to start with, i keep reading about how theres normal or base morphs and some morphs are resessive and some are designer so i dont know where to start. all i have is a normal male and i dont know what to get ot start of with, i dotn want to find out i got a designer morph and breed it to a normal to get it and normal babies only yo get all nomals out of it. id love them all the same still but id like to not make a mistake in the start.

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    Re: New need collection assistance :D

    Quote Originally Posted by Akren_905 View Post
    ive seen pinstripes they are amazing but is that a dominate gene? or recesive? i was told with some snakes i need pair i think those are ones i was told of.
    Yes its dom just like the mojo. The pastel u mentioned is co-dom along with vanilla i do believe. Axanthic is recessive.
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    Re: New need collection assistance :D

    Quote Originally Posted by f4n70m View Post
    Yes its dom just like the mojo. The pastel u mentioned is co-dom along with vanilla i do believe. Axanthic is recessive.
    Well mojo is codom too.

    Here is how it goes you have dom = spider, pinstripes.
    codom = pastels, mojo/lessor/butter
    recessive = albinos and Axanthic

    not all by no means just a few common ones you might see when looking around. the doms have a 50% chance of showing up when bred to a normal. the codoms have a 50% chance when bred to a normal. codoms also have a 25% chance of producing a super form when bred back to the same morph. recessive when bred to a normal will produce all normal snakes that are 100% het for the morph. a het bred back to the morph will produce 50% visuals and 50% morphs. just do a little more reading and you will find out a bunch.
    1.2 hog island boa
    0.4 normal BP
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    So should I start with dom and codom morphs? and avoid recessive for now because those require a pair to get the same morph or i need a HET right?

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    well what are you looking to do just make new morphs or what. what kind of morphs do you like to start with?
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    Re: New need collection assistance :D

    Quote Originally Posted by lilbit View Post
    Well mojo is codom too.

    Here is how it goes you have dom = spider, pinstripes.
    codom = pastels, mojo/lessor/butter
    recessive = albinos and Axanthic

    not all by no means just a few common ones you might see when looking around. the doms have a 50% chance of showing up when bred to a normal. the codoms have a 50% chance when bred to a normal. codoms also have a 25% chance of producing a super form when bred back to the same morph. recessive when bred to a normal will produce all normal snakes that are 100% het for the morph. a het bred back to the morph will produce 50% visuals and 50% morphs. just do a little more reading and you will find out a bunch.
    Oh yes my bad you are right mojo is co-dom >.> idk what i was thinking

    Quote Originally Posted by Akren_905 View Post
    So should I start with dom and codom morphs? and avoid recessive for now because those require a pair to get the same morph or i need a HET right?
    Up to you

    Correct me if im wrong guys?

    Recessive

    het x het = 25% visual, 50% hets, 25% normals (so its 66% pos.het Morph) because u dont know the diff between hets/normals for most things?

    Het/Visual = 50% visual, 50% hets

    Visual/Visual = All visual

    Now with dom

    Visual/normal = 50% visual, 50% normals

    visual/visual is 75% spiders, 25pct normals?

    And like for co dom like pastel u can do

    Visual/normal = 50% visual, 50% normals

    visual/visual = 50% pastel, 25% super pastel, 25% normals

    Correct guys?
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